Independents and non-partisans

[DGuller]

I think you have to separate being a Democrat from being an anti-Republican.  If you were a Soviet Jew, you may not have liked Stalin very much, but in 1942 you would probably be quite a fervent follower of him.

This is the Stewart/Maher/Colbert variant of partisanship.

It's greatest strength is that you're never really in favor of any solutions, so you never have to defend them.

That's bullshit of quite rare purity.

[Admiral Yi]

That's bullshit of quite rare purity.

I know you are but what am I?

[Martinus]

I think you have to separate being a Democrat from being an anti-Republican.  If you were a Soviet Jew, you may not have liked Stalin very much, but in 1942 you would probably be quite a fervent follower of him.

This is the Stewart/Maher/Colbert variant of partisanship.

It's greatest strength is that you're never really in favor of any solutions, so you never have to defend them.

Both Stewart and Colbert are comedians (hint: their shows are on a channel called Comedy Central). Why would you expect comedians to advance policies?

[DGuller]

That's bullshit of quite rare purity.

I know you are but what am I?

Sorry, I may not have been clear.  What I meant to say is that your (Admiral Yi's) comment was bullshit of rare purity.  I did not mean to imply that what I (DGuller) said was bullshit, of any purity.  I hope that clears it up. 

[Admiral Yi]

Both Stewart and Colbert are comedians (hint: their shows are on a channel called Comedy Central). Why would you expect comedians to advance policies?

I would not expect comedians to advance policies.

But the large number of Democrats who think and talk just like them are not comedians.

[Martinus]

Both Stewart and Colbert are comedians (hint: their shows are on a channel called Comedy Central). Why would you expect comedians to advance policies?

I would not expect comedians to advance policies.

But the large number of Democrats who think and talk just like them are not comedians.

Then why do you use names of comedians to make a point about politicians? It does not allow for a clear response as it is unclear what you meant.

[derspiess]

[Razgovory]

I think you have to separate being a Democrat from being an anti-Republican.  If you were a Soviet Jew, you may not have liked Stalin very much, but in 1942 you would probably be quite a fervent follower of him.

This is the Stewart/Maher/Colbert variant of partisanship.

It's greatest strength is that you're never really in favor of any solutions, so you never have to defend them.

That's bullshit of quite rare purity.

Nope.  Yi is right.  Being against things is easy.  Being for something, now that's hard.  It requires courage.

[Admiral Yi]

[Siege]

I think you have to separate being a Democrat from being an anti-Republican.  If you were a Soviet Jew, you may not have liked Stalin very much, but in 1942 you would probably be quite a fervent follower of him.

This is the Stewart/Maher/Colbert variant of partisanship.

It's greatest strength is that you're never really in favor of any solutions, so you never have to defend them.

Both Stewart and Colbert are comedians (hint: their shows are on a channel called Comedy Central). Why would you expect comedians to advance policies?

Don't understimate the influence of comedians.
Every democrat I know use them as valid reference.

Oh wait, I don't know any democrats.

[Berkut]

Yi is right, I just don't get why he thinks it matters.

Those guys are comedians - it is there job to make fun of the media and Republicans, not to formulate effective policy.

[Valmy]

But the large number of Democrats who think and talk just like them are not comedians.

Meh large numbers of people in this country on both sides are motivated by hatred of the other party.  Not just Democrats.

[dps]

I suspect a lot of people identify themselves as independents so that they can be anti-everything.

[Valmy]

I suspect a lot of people identify themselves as independents so that they can be anti-everything.

Yep.

Though to be fair not even the greatest geniuses in this country agree or have a good grasp on the problems and solutions we face.  To expect ordinary people to be able to understand the problems and be able to have a good idea about solutions is alot to ask so if none of the big authorities have their confidence this is probably a common reaction.

And there is the other issue that as soon as you take on the cloak of Democrat or Republican you will have huge amounts of people who will think you are horrible who hate liberty or gays or whatever.  People like Siege and Raz will be hounding you at parties.  It can just be less of a headache to just announce your neutrality and avoid the frothing rage that tends to run through political life.

[grumbler]

Then why do you use names of comedians to make a point about politicians? It does not allow for a clear response as it is unclear what you meant.

Because those comedians are examples of the "Stewart/Maher/Colbert variant of partisanship" that Yi wanted to reference?

None of this is very hard, if you just read what is written.