Europa Universalis IV announced

[Solmyr]

They are set as historical friends, I think?

Poland and Hungary are also historical friends. In the game they are enemies.

There are reasons for that.

[Tamas]

They are set as historical friends, I think?

Poland and Hungary are also historical friends. In the game they are enemies.

There are reasons for that.

Yeah, it is probably a game balance thing.

And there was nothing special in the Polish-Hungarian relation of the period I think.

I mean hey, the town I visted a few times in Poland was named after a victory they supposedly had against the forces of Matthias Corvinus.

[garbon]

Also, I already posted in this very thread to Anatron - the quote from Wiz about how it is for balance.  He said that when they were friends, Ottos got eaten every time.

[Anatron]

They are set as historical friends, I think?

Poland and Hungary are also historical friends. In the game they are enemies.

There are reasons for that.

Yeah, it is probably a game balance thing.

And there was nothing special in the Polish-Hungarian relation of the period I think.

I mean hey, the town I visted a few times in Poland was named after a victory they supposedly had against the forces of Matthias Corvinus.

Well, in 1335 there was a meeting in Visegrad where King of Bohemia,King of Poland and King of Hungary created an economical alliance against Wien.

On the other hand is very annoying that Portugals ally with half of Europa and never gets attacked by anyone,because he is putting itself behind Spain.

[Anatron]

So, next week for the patch? I am happy they did the most obvious trade fix at least, but annoyed by them spending time on national ideagroup silliness at this stage.

Especially stuff like Serbia reveal a bad design decision: if your game is historically accurate, the Serbia of 1444 has about 0.5% chance of even surviving, let alone achieving anything of note, so you should not be having its own national ideagroup as any kind of priority. IMHO.

Just started a game as Albania. 

[Queequeg]

Just declare war on Portugal while you are allied in a war with Spain.

[Tamas]

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?723683-1.2-Military-Changes

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?723681-1.2-Economical-Changes

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?723682-1.2-Misc-Changes

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?723680-1.2-Religious-Changes

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?723679-1.2-Expansion-changes

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?723684-1.2-Diplomacy-Changes

[garbon]

Damn. I feel like it'll take up my lunch break just to read those.

[Tamas]

Cool changes, the patch is worth waiting for it seems.

[Queequeg]

When will this be out?

[Tamas]

When will this be out?

tomorrow

[Anatron]

I dont like this one:

"- When fighting a large coalition, you no longer get 100% warscore just for occupying coalition leader"

This makes impossible to defend yourself against an attack of a larger coalition what the AI is likely creating, if a player become a strong Empire.

Till this time it was possible to defeat even the largest coalitions if you captured the coalition leader' lands.

Now you can forget it.

[Habbaku]

Tamas missed one :

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?723701-1.2-New-Features

[garbon]

I dont like this one:

"- When fighting a large coalition, you no longer get 100% warscore just for occupying coalition leader"

This makes impossible to defend yourself against an attack of a larger coalition what the AI is likely creating, if a player become a strong Empire.

Till this time it was possible to defeat even the largest coalitions if you captured the coalition leader' lands.

Now you can forget it.

Doesn't not being able to have 100% warscore from just AI leader just mean you won't be able to flip the attack and make crazy demands of the coalition?

[Tamas]

I dont like this one:

"- When fighting a large coalition, you no longer get 100% warscore just for occupying coalition leader"

This makes impossible to defend yourself against an attack of a larger coalition what the AI is likely creating, if a player become a strong Empire.

Till this time it was possible to defeat even the largest coalitions if you captured the coalition leader' lands.

Now you can forget it.

Well the original intention behind coalitions was to prevent blobbing and too fast expansion by the player, and this way it will do that better.
Makes the whole thing much more dangerous, though, I agree.