Europa Universalis IV announced

[garbon]

At least he was honest.

There are people who are born in Bosnia , live in Bosnia , perhaps never been to Serbia at all , but still claim not to be Bosnian , that's the thing that I can't and don't want to understand

[DGuller]

Oh, boy, I bet the next war in the Balkans will start over a post at Paradox.

[Solmyr]

Oh, boy, I bet the next war in the Balkans will start over a post at Paradox.

They will try to demonstrate in RL why Paradox maps should have borders the way they want.

[Habbaku]

Now, unless you have something meaningfull to add to the discussion of why Bosnia in the EUIV timeframe should have Bosnian culture or not, please stay out of it.

Even the thread's been ethnically-cleansed.   

[Solmyr]

They are coming out of the woodwork!

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?649484-Serbia-as-Empire

Well in EU 3 i managed to actully beat the Otomans and make a Empire i ended owning a 1/4 of Europe but i would like to start strong so i do not waste time and by by the way Stefans are cursed in EU evry single one of them was a bad king for me and died in battle but maybe Paradox hates slavics or just does not like them to make a strong empire of serbia

[Maladict]

They are coming out of the woodwork!

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?649484-Serbia-as-Empire

Well in EU 3 i managed to actully beat the Otomans and make a Empire i ended owning a 1/4 of Europe but i would like to start strong so i do not waste time and by by the way Stefans are cursed in EU evry single one of them was a bad king for me and died in battle but maybe Paradox hates slavics or just does not like them to make a strong empire of serbia

Thread has been closed in style, for once.

That's how we design games.

Step 1: Make sure there's no Serbian Empire
Stap 2: ???
Step 3: Profit

Thread Closed.

[Martinus]

My stealth-troll in this thread:

How about giving the entire Balkan area a single culture (e.g. "Balkan" or "Yugoslavian") but making this culture unique so that:
- people of this culture always consider themselves to be of a different culture than the ruler even if the ruler is also of the "Balkan" culture (so essentially Balkan culture people hate each other, even if to the rest of the world they are just one culture),
- it gives a huge revolt risk modifier,
- it gives every Balkan culture ruler a claim on every other Balkan culture province.

[Tamas]

My stealth-troll in this thread:

How about giving the entire Balkan area a single culture (e.g. "Balkan" or "Yugoslavian") but making this culture unique so that:
- people of this culture always consider themselves to be of a different culture than the ruler even if the ruler is also of the "Balkan" culture (so essentially Balkan culture people hate each other, even if to the rest of the world they are just one culture),
- it gives a huge revolt risk modifier,
- it gives every Balkan culture ruler a claim on every other Balkan culture province.

[The Minsky Moment]

Just make the whole area terra incognita.
Perhaps not precisely historical but aspirational.

[Queequeg]

You could probably split it in to South Slav and Bulgar, even if Bulgarians are South Slavs. Would probably be best to keep Serb-Croat-Slovene though.

[Viking]

Just make the whole area terra incognita.
Perhaps not precisely historical but aspirational.

The ottomans need the balkans to march on vienna

[DGuller]

Just make the whole area terra incognita.
Perhaps not precisely historical but aspirational.

[Warspite]

My proposed solution to the nightmare that was the Balkans during the Victoria beta was, essentially, the Gulf of Ljubljana.

[dps]

Just make the whole area terra incognita.
Perhaps not precisely historical but aspirational.

I'm intrigued by your idea of turning the Balkans into an area unfit for human habitation (it wouldn't really take much change to get to that state, anyway).  Do you think that it could be applied to other areas?  In particular, I have in mind Iran and Korea.

[Josquius]

I like the solution of giving the whole thing a generic South Slavic culture.
Nationalism is largely a 19th century thing. Stands to reason that if Serbia conquered the entire area they would all be calling themselves Serbs today, if Bosnia did it they'd all be Bosnians, etc....

Some Austrians should start kicking up fuss on the paradox forum about Austria being given German culture. Would give the Balkantards an interesting outsiders view of their idiocy...