How do I lose 5 pounds in 7 days?

[garbon]

Let's see you eat a little more crow.

[Valdemar]

Shrug, I still think it is a last minute ditch effort and not really fair to bitch at the lack of leniency of the company. It can hardly come as a suprise. I also suspect that these levels are pretty universal across insurance companies, so I bet that most people who has that kind of insurance are well aware of them, irrespective of being employed at this particullar company or soemwhere else. What levels do you think governs her current insurance if she has one?

Especially if it is universal BMI index being used, then I'm pretty sure Merri already knew where on that scale she was

V

[garbon]

I was wondering if I could get you to be more of an asshole. Mission Accomplished!

[mongers]

I was wondering if I could get you to be more of an asshole. Mission Accomplished!

Yeah The Languish Way is strong; thank god none of us were involved in the Northern Ireland peace process.

[lustindarkness]

Wow, someone in Languish talking out of their ass with no knowlegde on the topic. 

[Tamas]

Wow, someone in Languish talking out of their ass with no knowlegde on the topic. 

[DGuller]

And what asses these are.

[garbon]

Wow, someone in Languish talking out of their ass with no knowlegde on the topic. 

I don't understand how people can be so smug on topics that they don't know anything about. V's posts in this thread have just been heaps of assumptions with an air of superiority.

[merithyn]

Wow, someone in Languish talking out of their ass with no knowlegde on the topic. 

I don't understand how people can be so smug on topics that they don't know anything about. V's posts in this thread have just been heaps of assumptions with an air of superiority.

None of which are correct. Shocking.

[merithyn]

New developments: The information I was given was partially correct, but not 100% correct. The company will indeed be charging a premium for insurance based on the BMI (to the tune of 20%!! not 10%). However, the incorrect part was that it was already in place. That is not the case. Apparently, it won't start until January 1, which means that I have 4.5 months to lose the five pounds. Whew! Much more manageable!

I do still think that the policy is wrong, but sadly, it seems to be the more common route for health insurance in the US these days. I've heard of a couple of companies in the area moving in this direction. Oddly enough, those companies are the type where their employees sit on the rump all day, the company provides fatty, unhealthy lunches, and little motivation (other than this new premium increase) to do anything to lose the weight. At least the company I'll be working for has made serious efforts to help get people healthy despite the relatively unhealthy work environment. (Unhealthy in that we sit in cubicles for hours at a time, tied to the phones so we're really not even able to get up to walk around every hour, as is suggested.)

[merithyn]

Shrug, I still think it is a last minute ditch effort and not really fair to bitch at the lack of leniency of the company. It can hardly come as a suprise. I also suspect that these levels are pretty universal across insurance companies, so I bet that most people who has that kind of insurance are well aware of them, irrespective of being employed at this particullar company or soemwhere else. What levels do you think governs her current insurance if she has one?

Especially if it is universal BMI index being used, then I'm pretty sure Merri already knew where on that scale she was

V

Just so that I have this right, you're basically saying that the fact that I'm obese by the BMI - which I should know - is the problem in this scenario? I'm ~5 pounds over the limit, I run three times a week, lift weights on the off days, walk ~5-7 miles every day but Sunday, and am relatively healthy for my age and circumstances. Why on earth would I think that would translate to an increase in my group health insurance? And to you, this makes sense?

By the by, it isn't common in insurance companies. It's a new thing. And it's stupid. BMI means that most of the world's Olympians are obese, some morbidly so. It was created to determine trends among thousands of people and was never intended to be used for a single person's health guidelines. It's worthless as the sole process to be used on something like this, but this company is going to charge extra money based on it?

But feel free to continue to prove your ignorance.

[DGuller]

By the by, it isn't common in insurance companies. It's a new thing. And it's stupid. BMI means that most of the world's Olympians are obese, some morbidly so. It was created to determine trends among thousands of people and was never intended to be used for a single person's health guidelines. It's worthless as the sole process to be used on something like this, but this company is going to charge extra money based on it?

So you're saying that knowing a person's BMI won't help you predict his/her health or healthcare costs? 

[HVC]

By the by, it isn't common in insurance companies. It's a new thing. And it's stupid. BMI means that most of the world's Olympians are obese, some morbidly so. It was created to determine trends among thousands of people and was never intended to be used for a single person's health guidelines. It's worthless as the sole process to be used on something like this, but this company is going to charge extra money based on it?

So you're saying that knowing a person's BMI won't help you predict his/her health or healthcare costs? 

you gotta use something. 

[merithyn]

So you're saying that knowing a person's BMI won't help you predict his/her health or healthcare costs? 

I've been saying that for years. It doesn't take into account body shapes or sizes. It doesn't take into account muscle weight. It was NEVER meant to be used for individual health analysis. It is a terrible way to predict health, so it follows that it's a terrible way to predict healthcare costs for an individual.

you gotta use something. 

There has to be a better way than the BMI. Why not use body fat percentage as measured by calipers?

[Eddie Teach]

So you're saying that knowing a person's BMI won't help you predict his/her health or healthcare costs? 

People with very low BMI are more likely to be injured due to being shoved in lockers.