Does the US need to be fundamentally transformed?

Started by derspiess, July 27, 2012, 01:15:59 PM

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Does the US need to be fundamentally transformed?

Yes (American)
15 (31.3%)
No (American)
11 (22.9%)
Yes (furriner)
17 (35.4%)
No (furrener)
5 (10.4%)

Total Members Voted: 47

derspiess

However you take the term to mean, do you think the US needs to be fundamentally transformed?
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Neil

Fundamentally transformed?  Into what?

I mean, I suppose you would all be better people if you returned to your rightful sovereign (The Queen) and adopted a Westminster system, or if a totalitarian Neilist party were to be elected, but there's not a lot wrong with the the US that can't be fixed within your system.
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Barrister

You're verging into Raz territory here speiss.

Why don't you spell out whatever point you want to make and let us discuss, rather than ask a really vague question with no particular context.
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crazy canuck

Yes. It needs to be funamentally transformed in the manner I am thinking right now.

The Brain

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 27, 2012, 01:30:09 PM
Yes. It needs to be funamentally transformed in the manner I am thinking right now.

Habbaku

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derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Neil

I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on July 27, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 27, 2012, 01:26:36 PM
Fundamentally transformed?  Into what?

Into something else.

Why don't you come out and just say you still think Obama's a Muslim and trying to establish Sharia law with all his "foreignicity", instead of beating around the bush about it, derfetuss.

derspiess

Quote from: Barrister on July 27, 2012, 01:28:11 PM
You're verging into Raz territory here speiss.

Why don't you spell out whatever point you want to make and let us discuss, rather than ask a really vague question with no particular context.

It's a simple question.  President Obama has stated multiple times he wants to fundamentally transform the US, and he is about as vague as I was in my question.  Just wanted to know if Languishites agree with him that the US needs to be fundamentally transformed in some way. 
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 27, 2012, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 27, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 27, 2012, 01:26:36 PM
Fundamentally transformed?  Into what?

Into something else.

Why don't you come out and just say you still think Obama's a Muslim and trying to establish Sharia law with all his "foreignicity", instead of beating around the bush about it, derfetuss.

ANSWER THE QUESTION YES OR NO
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Barrister

Quote from: derspiess on July 27, 2012, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 27, 2012, 01:28:11 PM
You're verging into Raz territory here speiss.

Why don't you spell out whatever point you want to make and let us discuss, rather than ask a really vague question with no particular context.

It's a simple question.  President Obama has stated multiple times he wants to fundamentally transform the US, and he is about as vague as I was in my question.  Just wanted to know if Languishites agree with him that the US needs to be fundamentally transformed in some way.

I dunno man.  Harper has said before he wants to 'transform' Canada into a more conservative country, such that the Conservative Party becomes its natural governing party.  I don't see anything sinister in sayign that.  Obama is President - presumably he does have changes he wants to make, or else why would he become President in the first place?
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