Does the US need to be fundamentally transformed?

Started by derspiess, July 27, 2012, 01:15:59 PM

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Does the US need to be fundamentally transformed?

Yes (American)
15 (31.3%)
No (American)
11 (22.9%)
Yes (furriner)
17 (35.4%)
No (furrener)
5 (10.4%)

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garbon

#45
July 27, 2012, 04:52:41 PM
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Ed Anger

#46
July 27, 2012, 05:07:40 PM
Hands off mah guns, furrigners.
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Sheilbh

#48
July 28, 2012, 01:10:11 AM
I'm going to say yes.
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Martinus

#49
July 28, 2012, 01:55:06 AM Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 01:58:52 AM by Martinus
Could you link to an example of an interview with Obama where he says the US need to be fundamentally transformed?

citizen k

#50
July 28, 2012, 02:24:23 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 28, 2012, 01:55:06 AM
Could you link to an example of an interview with Obama where he says the US need to be fundamentally transformed?


Obama: "Fundamentally Transforming the United States of America"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrefKCaV8m4

Martinus

#51
July 28, 2012, 08:03:19 AM Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 08:05:01 AM by Martinus
Quote from: citizen k on July 28, 2012, 02:24:23 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 28, 2012, 01:55:06 AM
Could you link to an example of an interview with Obama where he says the US need to be fundamentally transformed?


Obama: "Fundamentally Transforming the United States of America"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrefKCaV8m4

So that's an interview? Interesting.  :hmm:

He also does not say "USA needs to be fundamentally transformed" but "We are 5 days away from fundamentally transforming the America." Out of context. Once. In a rally speech. From 4 years ago.

Is derspiess a cretin?

PDH

#52
July 28, 2012, 08:06:31 AM
Your mother.
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Caliga

#53
July 28, 2012, 08:09:31 AM

If I can change
and youse can change
EVERYBODY CAN CHANGE
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viper37

#54
July 28, 2012, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 27, 2012, 01:15:59 PM
However you take the term to mean, do you think the US needs to be fundamentally transformed?
yes, you need socialized medicine, gun control, and a royalty fetish to be just perfect! ;)
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Razgovory

#55
July 28, 2012, 02:59:50 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 27, 2012, 01:28:11 PM
You're verging into Raz territory here speiss.

Why don't you spell out whatever point you want to make and let us discuss, rather than ask a really vague question with no particular context.

Hey!
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MadImmortalMan

#56
July 28, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
People who want to "fundamentally transform" stuff tend to do very very bad things to people.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Razgovory

#57
July 28, 2012, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 28, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
People who want to "fundamentally transform" stuff tend to do very very bad things to people.

Like the American revolution.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Neil

#58
July 28, 2012, 03:42:20 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 28, 2012, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 28, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
People who want to "fundamentally transform" stuff tend to do very very bad things to people.
Like the American revolution.
Indeed.
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CountDeMoney

#59
July 28, 2012, 03:48:20 PM
I've watched Reds a couple times the last few weeks since it's been in cable circulation, and I've decided what this nation needs are more younger Paul Sorvinos with Italian accents.
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