Did Chick-fil-A Pretend to Be a Teenage Girl on Facebook?

[alfred russel]

Anti gay marriage activists were just reduced to waiting in long queues to patronize a fast food restaurant in some sort of rearguard solidarity movement. In its own way, it is a sign of progress.

[Eddie Teach]

The nearby Chick-fil-a always has long lines if you go there at lunchtime.

[Valmy]

You do understand I hope that Christians believe God sets his own policy and lobbying is neither productive or allowed.

We do?  Then why are we always praying to him all the time?

[garbon]

You do understand I hope that Christians believe God sets his own policy and lobbying is neither productive or allowed.

I have no idea what that has to do with what I said.

In his belief system making a gay person straight will improve their situation.  That to me is the antithesis of bigotry.

I don't. You're forcing people to give up their ways and shouldering them with what you think is better for them. Sort of similar to notions of forcing immigrants to give up their language/culture as that'll help improve their situation.

[Admiral Yi]

I have no idea what that has to do with what I said.

You're blaming Cathy for his interpretation of God's will, which he has no control over in his own mind.

I don't. You're forcing people to give up their ways and shouldering them with what you think is better for them. Sort of similar to notions of forcing immigrants to give up their language/culture as that'll help improve their situation.

Leaving aside the coercion issue, when else have we seen bigots doing something that they thought was better for their targets?  Did the Nazis try to make Jews better?  Did the Klan try to make blacks better?  Did bigoted Serbs try to make Bosniaks better?

[garbon]

You're blaming Cathy for his interpretation of God's will, which he has no control over in his own mind.

But he does. After all, there's no one way to be a Christian.

Leaving aside the coercion issue, when else have we seen bigots doing something that they thought was better for their targets?  Did the Nazis try to make Jews better?  Did the Klan try to make blacks better?  Did bigoted Serbs try to make Bosniaks better?

So you're just going to ignore my example in favor of your own? Wanting people to not be who they are be that sexual orientation, culture, religion is that not being hostile to those very identities?

[Eddie Teach]

But he does. After all, there's no one way to be a Christian.

Sure there is. All the others are wrong.

[Admiral Yi]

But he does. After all, there's no one way to be a Christian.

Members of other churches don't think they can change God's will either.

So you're just going to ignore my example in favor of your own? Wanting people to not be who they are be that sexual orientation, culture, religion is that not being hostile to those very identities?

I'm not ignoring your example.  I'm pointing out examples that demonstrate the essence of bigotry--ill will towards the other.  Wanting to "save" someone from homosexuality does not demonstrate ill will.  Wanting to "save" someone from a quote unquote wrong religion does not demonstrate ill will.  Pointing out the dire consequences of quote unquote sinful behavior does not demonstrate ill will.  Shoving someone in a room and pouring Zyklon B in demonstrates ill will.

[Ed Anger]

I turn on the TV and it is Chick-Fil-A overload on the news channels. So guess what I want to eat again.

Damn evil chicken. 

[FunkMonk]

I turn on the TV and it is Chick-Fil-A overload on the news channels. So guess what I want to eat again.

Damn evil chicken. 

The free advertising is delicious.

[Octavian]

I turn on the TV and it is Chick-Fil-A overload on the news channels. So guess what I want to eat again.

Damn evil chicken. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpoki4wBwtA

[Darth Wagtaros]

I turn on the TV and it is Chick-Fil-A overload on the news channels. So guess what I want to eat again.

Damn evil chicken. 

THe one closest to me is infested with cockroaches. I know roaches are everywhere, but most places have the decency to keep them out of sight. Also, the service is bad even by the low standards of fast food.

[garbon]

Members of other churches don't think they can change God's will either.

They all are defining for themselves what they believe God's will is. And at the very least, as I know you won't agree with that, they are choosing what messages they want to put out there. I know plenty of Christians and none of them say those sorts of statements to me.

I'm not ignoring your example.  I'm pointing out examples that demonstrate the essence of bigotry--ill will towards the other.  Wanting to "save" someone from homosexuality does not demonstrate ill will.  Wanting to "save" someone from a quote unquote wrong religion does not demonstrate ill will.  Pointing out the dire consequences of quote unquote sinful behavior does not demonstrate ill will.  Shoving someone in a room and pouring Zyklon B in demonstrates ill will.

Just because it is done differently doesn't mean it isn't ill-will. The people are still alive but you've taken steps to eradicate their identity / their existence as a group. Doesn't sound particularly benevolent even if you say they'll be better off.  Otherwise, you're saying that Grallon isn't being bigoted when he says that Muslim immigrants need to drop all of their culture and espouse only Western (and presumably Quebecer) sentiments. That seems odd.

[alfred russel]

But he does. After all, there's no one way to be a Christian.

Members of other churches don't think they can change God's will either.

So you're just going to ignore my example in favor of your own? Wanting people to not be who they are be that sexual orientation, culture, religion is that not being hostile to those very identities?

I'm not ignoring your example.  I'm pointing out examples that demonstrate the essence of bigotry--ill will towards the other.  Wanting to "save" someone from homosexuality does not demonstrate ill will.  Wanting to "save" someone from a quote unquote wrong religion does not demonstrate ill will.  Pointing out the dire consequences of quote unquote sinful behavior does not demonstrate ill will.  Shoving someone in a room and pouring Zyklon B in demonstrates ill will.

Surely the definition of bigotry can extend beyond putting someone in the zyklon B room. There were lots of christian arguments for slavery, segregation, and banning interracial marriage. I don't think that exempts members of churches that still believe those arguments from a bigot classification, even if in their worldview such things would be the best for everyone in the eyes of god.

[Ed Anger]

I turn on the TV and it is Chick-Fil-A overload on the news channels. So guess what I want to eat again.

Damn evil chicken. 

The free advertising is delicious.

Very delicious.