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The Rosenhan Experiment

Started by jimmy olsen, July 21, 2012, 07:36:07 PM

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CountDeMoney

We made it that way.  Now go back to your bowl of kimchi.

Ideologue

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katmai

Quote from: Ideologue on July 24, 2012, 09:18:31 PM
Korean food is garbage food.
Someone sent me link saying Kimchi was "human waste food" :lol:
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

jimmy olsen

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 24, 2012, 09:14:25 PM
We made it that way.  Now go back to your bowl of kimchi.
Kimchi is disgusting!  :yuk:
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Scipio

Korean barbecue, now that's some good shit.
What I speak out of my mouth is the truth.  It burns like fire.
-Jose Canseco

There you go, giving a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck.
-Every cop, The Wire

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-John Hurt

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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garbon

Quote from: dps on July 22, 2012, 01:07:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2012, 11:20:45 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 21, 2012, 10:58:18 PM
Don't you claim to know something about history?
Yes, and that would include specific knowledge of modern health institutions, why? Politics, war, art and culture is what I read I'm interested in history, not procedural regulations of asylums or law enforcement agencies beyond Supreme Court cases that have addressed those issues, or cultural reform movements like those of the early 19th century that have addressed those issues.

Uhm, because you need good general knowledge in order to provide context to historical knowledge?  Otherwise, it's just trivia. 

:yes:

/I like how Tim suggests that things he doesn't care about is just trivia.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ed Anger

We at the Timmay is a Poophead Front (TPF) claim full credit for the delicious Chick-Fil-A hijack.
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DGuller

Was this study done in a Soviet mental hospital?

DGuller

QuoteIn 2008, the BBC's Horizon science program performed a somewhat related experiment over two episodes entitled "How Mad Are You?". The experiment involved ten subjects, five living with previously-diagnosed mental health conditions, and five with no such diagnosis. They were observed by three experts in mental health diagnoses and their challenge was to identify the five with mental health problems.[11] The experts correctly diagnosed two of the ten patients, misdiagnosed one patient, and incorrectly identified two healthy patients as having mental health problems.[12]
:XD:  Sounds like things aren't getting that much better with time.

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Scipio on July 24, 2012, 08:10:27 PM
Query: I never liked their sandwiches.  Is not eating their sandwiches now considered agreeing with the boycott?

Because I love their waffle fries, and so I may eat there again.  And I'd like to be covered on each approach, as the unofficial attorney of gay Hattiesburg.
I haven't been able to eat there since I went to the mall one morning and saw cockroaches crawling all over their table.
PDH!

Monoriu

Quote from: DGuller on July 25, 2012, 07:53:57 AM
QuoteIn 2008, the BBC's Horizon science program performed a somewhat related experiment over two episodes entitled "How Mad Are You?". The experiment involved ten subjects, five living with previously-diagnosed mental health conditions, and five with no such diagnosis. They were observed by three experts in mental health diagnoses and their challenge was to identify the five with mental health problems.[11] The experts correctly diagnosed two of the ten patients, misdiagnosed one patient, and incorrectly identified two healthy patients as having mental health problems.[12]
:XD:  Sounds like things aren't getting that much better with time.

That means the experts are no better than camels randomly picking a result. 

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Monoriu on July 25, 2012, 08:59:49 AM
Quote from: DGuller on July 25, 2012, 07:53:57 AM
QuoteIn 2008, the BBC's Horizon science program performed a somewhat related experiment over two episodes entitled "How Mad Are You?". The experiment involved ten subjects, five living with previously-diagnosed mental health conditions, and five with no such diagnosis. They were observed by three experts in mental health diagnoses and their challenge was to identify the five with mental health problems.[11] The experts correctly diagnosed two of the ten patients, misdiagnosed one patient, and incorrectly identified two healthy patients as having mental health problems.[12]
:XD:  Sounds like things aren't getting that much better with time.

That means the experts are no better than camels randomly picking a result.
Did you just pick a random animal, or is this a Chinese saying? :hmm:
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Monoriu

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 25, 2012, 09:02:10 AM
Did you just pick a random animal, or is this a Chinese saying? :hmm:

I remember there was an experiment where camels competed with experts on picking stocks.  The camels won. 

DGuller

This isn't funny if you really think about it, though.  Psychiatry isn't just some harmless curiosity like astrology.  Many lives are affected by it, often by force or at least heavy-handed compulsion.  This is a pseudoscience that can destroy lives.  For all we know, many of the children diagnosed with ADD and are force-fed amphetamines are only suffering from being young (at least until they are "treated").