European Court of Justice rules: You can resell digitally purchased software.

[Razgovory]

The ruling sounds fine in theory.  It's the implementation that is bound to get messy.

I'm working out how they even could implement it.  This does not seem like that good a ruling.  Does it also mean that digital distributor also only a finine number of games it can sell?

[Grey Fox]

Does it also mean that digital distributor also only a finine number of games it can sell?

They already do.

[Martinus]

I'm glad at least the European institutions are not in the pocket of big IP providers, since almost every other government is. Perhaps the world government is not such a bad idea after all - since only at the supra-national level it seems the governments (which ultimately have at least some sort of democratic legitimacy) are able to stand their ground to international corporations (which lack any whatsoever).

Arguably one of the big reasons that multinational corps have more difficulty influencing supra-national bodies is precisely because those bodies are less accountable and less democratic than national or sub-national bodies.

Oh that's true. But they are still more democratically accountable than multinational corps, which is my point.

[Razgovory]

Does it also mean that digital distributor also only a finine number of games it can sell?

They already do.

Really?  What is the limit?  I've never seen Steam say "sold out".  I suppose the best response to this is digital distributor to alter their contracts from purchase to rent.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Does it also mean that digital distributor also only a finine number of games it can sell?

They already do.

Really?  What is the limit?  I've never seen Steam say "sold out".

and neither will you now. a bit of a strawman not?

[Ed Anger]

So what's up with the DRM for Jutland?

Jim Rose is still a prick.

[jimmy olsen]

Awesome!

[Razgovory]

Does it also mean that digital distributor also only a finine number of games it can sell?

They already do.

Really?  What is the limit?  I've never seen Steam say "sold out".

and neither will you now. a bit of a strawman not?

Well no.  I was under the impression that scarcity of items was not a factor in digital distribution.  Scarcity of bandwidth or electrons, sure, but not titles.

[Neil]

Well no.  I was under the impression that scarcity of items was not a factor in digital distribution.  Scarcity of bandwidth or electrons, sure, but not titles.

Steam can run out of keycodes.

[Neil]

Awesome!

Not at all.  The ECJ mandating pain-in-the-ass DRM is troublesome.

[Razgovory]

Well no.  I was under the impression that scarcity of items was not a factor in digital distribution.  Scarcity of bandwidth or electrons, sure, but not titles.

Steam can run out of keycodes.

Possibly, but how many variables are there for one game? There are like 25 different digits which can use either a number or a letter.  I'm not good at math and don't know how to figure how many possible codes there are for one game.  Hundreds of Trillions?  And even if they did, they could just get rid of the requirement.

[Grey Fox]

Well no.  I was under the impression that scarcity of items was not a factor in digital distribution.  Scarcity of bandwidth or electrons, sure, but not titles.

Steam can run out of keycodes.

Possibly, but how many variables are there for one game? There are like 25 different digits which can use either a number or a letter.  I'm not good at math and don't know how to figure how many possible codes there are for one game.  Hundreds of Trillions?  And even if they did, they could just get rid of the requirement.

Digital retail work like brick & mortar retailers. They buy a finite amount of games from the publishers. While the B&M get a dvd in a box, the Digital retailer gets codes & a data file.

[Tamas]

meh. if it is in the contract that you are buying a license to use something and you cannot resell the license, why is the court able to change this?

Also, stuff like, if I buy a Bluray for  home use, and sell it to a cinema, who then use it to show it to an audience... I guess that's still not okay right? So in that case the license contract is holy. But why not when it comes to reselling?
Stupid.

[Tamas]

What kind of cinema would show Blu-Ray crap? A gypsy cinema?

it was just an example for ffs. change it to selling your bluray disc to a bluray renting shop. there

[Razgovory]

Well no.  I was under the impression that scarcity of items was not a factor in digital distribution.  Scarcity of bandwidth or electrons, sure, but not titles.

Steam can run out of keycodes.

Possibly, but how many variables are there for one game? There are like 25 different digits which can use either a number or a letter.  I'm not good at math and don't know how to figure how many possible codes there are for one game.  Hundreds of Trillions?  And even if they did, they could just get rid of the requirement.

Digital retail work like brick & mortar retailers. They buy a finite amount of games from the publishers. While the B&M get a dvd in a box, the Digital retailer gets codes & a data file.

Can you prove this?