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Paradox making a Cold War game

Started by Maladict, July 02, 2012, 09:08:48 AM

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Tamas

Quote from: Syt on July 02, 2012, 09:47:07 AM
My general reaction is "meh". I would like a meaningful Cold War game, but I don't think Paradox can pull it off. Balance of Power and Shadow President were the best entries into the field, and SP was rather average itself.

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Faeelin

Can you even have a game where the Soviets win the Cold War? How could that even be plausible?

Josquius

It'll have to take huge steps away from the conquer those provinces map based games of paradox.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Syt on July 02, 2012, 10:16:30 AM
The idea of having a CW game where you can play any nation (e.g. Egypt, or Israel, or India or the likes) has potential, but I don't see any company tackling this successfully and delivering a fun product.

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Ideologue

Quote from: Syt on July 02, 2012, 09:47:07 AM
My general reaction is "meh". I would like a meaningful Cold War game, but I don't think Paradox can pull it off. Balance of Power and Shadow President were the best entries into the field, and SP was rather average itself.

Wasn't Shadow President the game where you just nuked everybody?  At least that's how I played.
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Ideologue

Quote from: Faeelin on July 02, 2012, 10:35:48 AM
Can you even have a game where the Soviets win the Cold War? How could that even be plausible?

I guess if your country doesn't collapse in 1991, it's a win?
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The Brain

Quote from: Faeelin on July 02, 2012, 10:35:48 AM
Can you even have a game where the Soviets win the Cold War? How could that even be plausible?

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Syt

Quote from: Faeelin on July 02, 2012, 10:35:48 AM
Can you even have a game where the Soviets win the Cold War? How could that even be plausible?

QuoteSoviet Union suffers worst wheat harvest in 55 years... Labor and food riots in Poland. Soviet troops invade... Cuba and Nicaragua reach troop strength goals of 500,000. El Salvador and Honduras fall... Greens Party gains control of West German Parliament. Demands withdrawal of nuclear weapons from European soil... Mexico plunged into revolution... NATO dissolves. United States stands alone.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Syt on July 02, 2012, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on July 02, 2012, 10:35:48 AM
Can you even have a game where the Soviets win the Cold War? How could that even be plausible?

QuoteSoviet Union suffers worst wheat harvest in 55 years... Labor and food riots in Poland. Soviet troops invade... Cuba and Nicaragua reach troop strength goals of 500,000. El Salvador and Honduras fall... Greens Party gains control of West German Parliament. Demands withdrawal of nuclear weapons from European soil... Mexico plunged into revolution... NATO dissolves. United States stands alone.

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Barrister

I would adore an even half-good Cold War game.  I guess Paradox is better placed than most to make it happen, but even then I am sceptical about using their engine to do it.
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Syt

Well, looking at P'dox catalogue the game should probably be more along the lines of Victoria - internal politics, research, spheres of influence, a world market (oil embargo, consumer products or lack thereof come to mind), a focus on prestige, the expeditions mechanic that could be adapted to the space race . . .
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