Obama to fire gay military officer. Martinus pops vein.

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alfred russel

#30
May 08, 2009, 03:45:39 PM
Is this Obama's fault? I thought don't ask don't tell was a law. He may not have had a choice.

Maybe this will get overturning that closer to the top of the agenda, though. The democrats have a filibuster proof majority, the only reason for delay that I can see is fundraising.
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Razgovory

#31
May 08, 2009, 03:49:43 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 08, 2009, 03:38:57 PM


Only the marti's of the world benefit. So Choi needs to be crushed under the Obamahitler's boot heel.

It is a sweet and seemly thing to sacrifice your career to make Marty unhappy.
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Valmy

#32
May 08, 2009, 03:50:39 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 08, 2009, 03:42:28 PM
Correction.  Choi was out.  Marti isnt even sure if he is in.

Yeah Marty would have shut up and kept his career...but bitched on languish alot.
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Phillip V

#33
May 08, 2009, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2009, 03:29:43 PM
How does sacrificing your career for something you believe in not selfless?
Nope. The point of military service is to sacrifice your beliefs for your career.

I am against why we went into Iraq, but I sure as hell ain't gonna go on national television and bitch about it. What many anti-war generals did was to first retire before they came out against the war and called for Rumsfeld's head.

crazy canuck

#34
May 08, 2009, 03:55:02 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 08, 2009, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2009, 03:29:43 PM
How does sacrificing your career for something you believe in not selfless?
Nope. The point of military service is to sacrifice your beliefs for your career.

I am against why we went into Iraq, but I sure as hell ain't gonna go on national television and bitch about it. What many anti-war generals did was to first retire before they came out against the war and called for Rumsfeld's head.

He is not just doing this to be critical of policy he is creating a test case on the best possible facts to show how silly the law is.  He needs to sacrifice himself to do that.

Phillip V

#35
May 08, 2009, 03:58:02 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 08, 2009, 03:55:02 PM
He is not just doing this to be critical of policy he is creating a test case on the best possible facts to show how silly the law is.  He needs to sacrifice himself to do that.
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Valmy

#36
May 08, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 08, 2009, 03:51:23 PM
Nope. The point of military service is to sacrifice your beliefs for your career.

I am against why we went into Iraq, but I sure as hell ain't gonna go on national television and bitch about it. What many anti-war generals did was to first retire before they came out against the war and called for Rumsfeld's head.

Fair enough.  Anyway he clearly intended for this exact outcome.

Pity he happened to be an Arabic linguist.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Phillip V

#37
May 08, 2009, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Pity he happened to be an Arabic linguist.
Indeed.

Though, I suppose he can go back to Iraq in a civilian status? I bet that would be quite lucrative, too.

derspiess

#38
May 08, 2009, 04:10:16 PM
Valmy, are you upset that the Army lost an Arab linguist?  Just wondering :P
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Neil

#39
May 08, 2009, 04:12:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Pity he happened to be an Arabic linguist.
Why?  The US is fleeing the region anyways, tail between their legs.
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Phillip V

#40
May 08, 2009, 04:20:57 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 08, 2009, 04:12:30 PM
Why?  The US is fleeing the region anyways, tail between their legs.
I actually met a Dari/Pashto speaker at a gas station, he expressed his interest, and now he is applying for a DoD civilian job as a linguist. :cool:

garbon

#41
May 08, 2009, 04:26:34 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 08, 2009, 03:36:00 PM
:huh:
Explain?
I don't think that any person is disposable enough and that a lot that is inherent in being an indvidual isn't optimal for what the military needs (like self vs. selflessness).
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grumbler

#42
May 08, 2009, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 08, 2009, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2009, 03:29:43 PM
How does sacrificing your career for something you believe in not selfless?
Nope. The point of military service is to sacrifice your beliefs for your career.
How many years have you served, again?

This is about the dumbest thing I have heard on languish, and I have been here a long time.

Oh, and the answer for me is 26 years.
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The Brain

#43
May 08, 2009, 04:50:10 PM
God I would have been bored to tears if I worked for the same employer 26 years.

But whatever. Dont ask don't tell is a law? Hilarious.
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Ed Anger

#44
May 08, 2009, 04:52:11 PM
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