Armstrong's luck running out?

[Eddie Teach]

So, has anyone actually won a Tour de France title in the last 20 years?

I'm sure the Brit cyclist who won this year still has his.

[Josquius]

Had no idea this was happening, its a surprise to me. A lot of school text books will have to be rewritten considering how often he pops up in them as an inspirational figure!

[HVC]

Guess doping wasn't worth his left nut after all.

[Liep]

So, has anyone actually won a Tour de France title in the last 20 years?

Yeah, but they all used doping too, difference is we didn't care 15 years ago.

[Liep]

Also, bah. Seems like a good move by Armstrong if he knew he'd be found guilty. This way he can claim to be above the witchhunting USADA and still continue as normal.

[jimmy olsen]

Also, bah. Seems like a good move by Armstrong if he knew he'd be found guilty. This way he can claim to be above the witchhunting USADA and still continue as normal.

Looks like his plan has worked.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/congrats-usada-just-turned-lance-armstrong-present-day-045800845--spt.html

[Maladict]

What a mess. And now what? We're going to have 7 new ceremonies in Paris?
Ullrich, who has just had all his results since 2005 wiped out because of doping, will now be a three-time Tour winner?
Kill this sport already.

[Liep]

That's how all doping agencies work, except maybe the Spanish, but I'm not sure that works at all.

Also, his plan only works in USA, in Europe he's done. We've been awaiting/expecting this.

[MadImmortalMan]

I want some of this HGH stuff.

[jimmy olsen]

That's how all doping agencies work, except maybe the Spanish, but I'm not sure that works at all.

Also, his plan only works in USA, in Europe he's done. We've been awaiting/expecting this.

Since he lives in America and his standing of living depends on his reputation there, that's all that really matters to him.

[Zanza]

Ullrich, who has just had all his results since 2005 wiped out because of doping, will now be a three-time Tour winner?

Like he didn't dope before that. That would be ridiculous if he now is considered the winner.

EDIT: Actually, isn't he considered to be the tour winner of 1996 by the Tour organization because Riis admitted to doping?

[Martinus]

It still isn't a government organization.  It has recognized by Congress gets some funding, but that's not unlike many privatized entities that do work for the US government.

I believe his concern is that insuring fairness in cycling shouldn't be part of the government's job at all, directly or through proxies.

Why shouldn't it? The state prosecutes or penalises fraud in pretty much every aspect of commercial human interaction - why should professional sport be different?

[Maladict]

Ullrich, who has just had all his results since 2005 wiped out because of doping, will now be a three-time Tour winner?

Like he didn't dope before that. That would be ridiculous if he now is considered the winner.

In fact, all riders in second and third place behind Armstrong have been caught or implicated in doping scandals.

[Martinus]

Ullrich, who has just had all his results since 2005 wiped out because of doping, will now be a three-time Tour winner?

Like he didn't dope before that. That would be ridiculous if he now is considered the winner.

In fact, all riders in second and third place behind Armstrong have been caught or implicated in doping scandals.

It may be that the prize will actually go to mongers.

[Zanza]

Ullrich, who has just had all his results since 2005 wiped out because of doping, will now be a three-time Tour winner?

Like he didn't dope before that. That would be ridiculous if he now is considered the winner.

In fact, all riders in second and third place behind Armstrong have been caught or implicated in doping scandals.