Star Trek (for actual talk about the star trek movie)

[Siege]

Honest to god, I keep trying. It's clear enough that you're right, and the only way to have any damned fun with the pop culture of the next few years is going to be to not be bothered by these sorts of things, but I haven't had much luck getting over it. It really is the age of zombie pop culture, raising properties from the dead as crude parodies of themselves.

That said, I've been amused by the 80s inspired efforts of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, The Killers, and Lady Gaga.  As well as attempts by Adele, Duffy, Sarah Bareilles, and Tegan & Sara to emulate Jewel-Alanis-Phair-Amos-Crow.

I love Lady Gaga!!!

[Siege]

Is it just me, or does virtually all Sci-Fi or even fantasy pale in comparison to how amazingly cool history is?

Maybe the wrong topic, but I'm curious.  I'm mystified by how much detail there is in these fantasy worlds, how much people know about them, when there is real history to learn and discuss. 

Thats a good point.
Who The Fuck are you again?

[Martinus]

Besides, it seems foolish to me to pay to see a movie and then just walk out.  You've essentially just forked over money for free.

I think it makes more sense than wasting your time by staying to watch the movie you don't like, after you have already wasted your money on it. 

[Martinus]

I'm shocked Timmay would like it since it's ya know a Socialist future.

The preachy socialistic moralising of TNG has been butterflied away.

Socialism I don't really have any problem with.  In an economy of effortless abundance it makes a lot more sense, actually. 

My problem is with the dullness of the people.  The primary difference between Humans and Vulcans is that Vulcans are flamboyant in their lack of emotion. 

I don't even understand what Starfleet does other than defense.  Why go out to meet new civilizations if you don't need to exploit their resources or learn from their technology?   Its more like a past time of the rich and bored.

Aside from defense they help people in distress whether man-made or natural disaster like the coast guard/national guard. They also do a lot of scientific research. As for exploration, there is still interstellar trade for luxury/exotic goods and one should always be on the look out for future threats. Also who says they don't learn from their technology? Earth got a lot of it's advanced technology from the Vulcans.

Why would you want to trade for luxury/exotic goods if you can just replicate everything?

It's not like a common hen's egg should be easier to replicate than a spotted egg of the Andorrian headless chicken, for example.

[Martinus]

Is it just me, or does virtually all Sci-Fi or even fantasy pale in comparison to how amazingly cool history is?

Maybe the wrong topic, but I'm curious.  I'm mystified by how much detail there is in these fantasy worlds, how much people know about them, when there is real history to learn and discuss.

Well, art imitates life. An imitation can never surpass the original in the level of complexity or diversity.

[Scipio]

The one thing I like about Star Trek, as opposed to most sci-fi and fantasy, is that it doesn't spend an assload of time hitting us with made-up sounding words and names.  I read loads of fiction, but nowadays, when I pick up a fantasy or sci-fi novel from the library and I get hit with a half-dozen nonsensical syllables that are supposed to be the protagonist's name, I instantly put the book down.  I blame Tolkien.

[Korea]

Spoilers***

Yeah. Uhura was his love interest. I thought it was retarded but Ide liked it. 

You were right, Ide was wrong. In other words, business as usual.

Spoilers***


Actually in the context of the movie it made sense, or at least wasn't glaring. He's an indifferent boyfriend at most.

Hope she doesn't mind fucking every seven years.

I don't think it made that much sense because of the fact that he was so distant and didn't really act like a boyfriend except when they made out every once in a while. It seems unlikely that a girl would put up with that bullshit for long.

Also, wasn't he her instructor or superior or something?

[Korea]

Spoilers***

Yeah. Uhura was his love interest. I thought it was retarded but Ide liked it. 

You were right, Ide was wrong. In other words, business as usual.

Spoilers***


Actually in the context of the movie it made sense, or at least wasn't glaring. He's an indifferent boyfriend at most.

Well obviously, but Korea doesn't hold it against him so why should we?

[syk]

The one thing I like about Star Trek, as opposed to most sci-fi and fantasy, is that it doesn't spend an assload of time hitting us with made-up sounding words and names.  I read loads of fiction, but nowadays, when I pick up a fantasy or sci-fi novel from the library and I get hit with a half-dozen nonsensical syllables that are supposed to be the protagonist's name, I instantly put the book down.  I blame Tolkien.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fthagn!

[jimmy olsen]

Spoilers***

Yeah. Uhura was his love interest. I thought it was retarded but Ide liked it. 

You were right, Ide was wrong. In other words, business as usual.

Spoilers***


Actually in the context of the movie it made sense, or at least wasn't glaring. He's an indifferent boyfriend at most.

Hope she doesn't mind fucking every seven years.

He's half human, maybe he can do it more often?

[Olive]

Nice post.  Have plans watching it. Good to be informed all about this. Thanks.

[Queequeg]

in general I have to think that the Star Trek universe detracts far, far more than it adds.

Yup. Let it die people, let it die. I like Star Trek but I think the universe's utility for telling new and interesting stories is very much at an end. Let it rest in peace, and stop trying to zombify it.

That said, the Retro-Future aesthetic would have been a lot harder to pull off if it wasn't an established series back in the day.  I'm a little conflicted.

[Phillip V]

Some Jackie Chan movie, I can't remember it's name but it was pretty damn afwul enough that even the martial arts couldn't save it for me and I usually like his movies.

RACIST.

[jimmy olsen]

Some Jackie Chan movie, I can't remember it's name but it was pretty damn afwul enough that even the martial arts couldn't save it for me and I usually like his movies.

RACIST.

[Ideologue]

Spoilerish Question

Romulus. Go back and watch the second part of the TNG episode Reunification, Spock answers your question.

Ok, give me the fucking answer!
I refuse to watch the TNG.

Then watch the Goddamn eighth episode of the original series.  Romulans are Vulcans.  You know, like Jews are Arabs.

Yup. Let it die people, let it die. I like Star Trek but I think the universe's utility for telling new and interesting stories is very much at an end. Let it rest in peace, and stop trying to zombify it.

It was a great movie, you big ol' negative nancy.   The only big problem was that the villain was a little undermotivated, and then only slightly--this may even be fixed in the extended cut.

As for the charges that exploration is pointless in Trek, well, obviously they're getting the vast energy they require to run those replicators and transporters and shit from somewhere.  They're seeking out and fighting over x-ray binaries and such that they use to power their antimatter refineries.

Well obviously, but Korea doesn't hold it against him so why should we?

I need everyone to continue performing admirably.