The Miscellaneous PC & vidya Games Thread

[Valmy]

If the effort is being put in, I'd definitely prefer Morrowind remastered.

Best ES game.

I not only actually finished the game before I got bored but I actually did the Tribunal expansion.

So while that seems like a lifetime ago, I would at least get a Morrowind remaster and give it a spin.

[Norgy]

I think most of us remember Morrowind as the supreme game when it came to world-building and quests.
We got a small taste in the Skyrim expansion with a revisit to Solstheim, but it was just enough to whet one's appetite for more.

I'd gladly deliver my, uhm, package to Caius Cosades in an Unreal 5 remaster.

[The Minsky Moment]

Only problem with Morrowind was no horse armor.



 

[Valmy]

Only problem with Morrowind was no horse armor.



 

There might have been. But there were no horses so we will never know.

[Syt]

"You would wish to ride upon a beast? There is a way... Go to one of the many silt-strider ports and pay your fee! You wish one for personal use? Bah! Walk if you must; run if you are chased!"

[grumbler]

Only problem with Morrowind was no horse armor.



 

There might have been. But there were no horses so we will never know.

Not on Vvardenfell, no. But probably elsewhere where orcs are less common. 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Only problem with Morrowind was no horse armor.



 

There might have been. But there were no horses so we will never know.

Siltrider Armour...

[Josquius]

I've said it before but I find Morrowind to be quite shit.
When I played it, it was already quite old; maybe it was after I'd already played Oblivion?
So the clunky controls, right button for menu, left button for action, thing was just massively off putting.

Oblivion was amazing for its time. That it was a pretty generic fantasy world was part of the appeal. You actually got to walk around in one.
I never actually finished it. My usual problem of getting side tracked trying to do everything got in the way.

I'm pretty sure I have an early memory of playing Daggerfall when it was the newest thing though and quite loving that. Never actually owned it though.

[Valmy]

I played Morrowind back in 2003. Right around the time I just moved to Languish. In fact I remember grumbler showing me some mods and DLC for it back in those times.

[Syt]

Morrowind suffers from the (intentionally) slow start with your character barely able to do much of anything (unless using gamebreaking cheese mechanics) and from sitting in the weird intersection of moving towards full 3D immersive world while still using old school RPG dice rolls for combat leading to the "I hit but it doesn't do anything!!" reaction of many players at the start of the game.

That said, by later game you fast walk everywhere and kill most threats with a few hits while taking little damage. Very much a power fantasy. An I really liked the main quest and its dive into ancient lore and you getting to interpret yourself what you want to believe. Also one of the few main quests that's not constantly harrassing you with how urgent the threat is but instead often telling you, "Yeah, take a break from the story, do some other stuff for a bit."

I need to play it again. I very much like the Morrowind Rebirth mod which is a vanilla and lore friendly overhaul, expanding some areas (a shop here, an NPC there, a bit of farming near Caldera etc.), adding a few fun dungeons and items, doing gentle rebalancing etc. that all fit well into the original game without going silly or ratcheting up the difficulty to 1337-uber-gamer levels.

[Solmyr]

There's always Skywind that will hopefully come out sometime.

[celedhring]

Morrowind remains my favorite TES entry, it had the best balance between size (as in being smaller  ) and purposeful content, instead of just littering the world with stuff. Oblivion was really good too. Skyrim is the one that put me off the formula.

[Josquius]

Morrowind had a lot of copy and paste dungeons no?

I do agree that's key to a good MMORPG- dense worlds where every inch is designed. Worlds that are big just to show off were impressive once upon a time but no longer. It's where Yakuzas world relally shines for instance.

[Syt]

Grumpy Andy Chalk summed up my feelings quite well on Oblivion:

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/the-elder-scrolls/how-excited-are-we-to-replay-a-shinier-version-of-oblivion-19-years-later/

[...]

Personally, I have no excitement for the Oblivion remaster. Zero. I liked Oblivion quite a lot when it was new: I bought the collector's edition on launch day and poured an awful lot of hours into it, and yeah, it was good. It was also painfully safe. More than any other game in The Elder Scrolls series, Oblivion is generic open world fantasy pap for the masses, the game that carried Bethesda into the big time and whose driving philosophy was thus one of caution: Don't alienate, don't offend, don't be too goddamn weird.

Compared to the bizarre magnificence of its predecessor, Morrowind, and the monstrous sprawl of the game before that one, Daggerfall, Oblivion comes off like Peter Jackson's The Elder Scrolls: A big-budget, mass-market rendition of something that had previously been so daring and ambitious.

That style-over-substance approach is aptly summed up by the game's two stars, Patrick Stewart and Sean Bean, who bookended Oblivion by showing up to die at the beginning of the game, and showing up to die at the end—two of the biggest "is that all?" moments in videogame history.

[...]

While I'm not quite so cynical and will probably pick it up like the good consumer I am, ES4 left me rather cold at launch. I came to the series with Morrowind with its alien and weird setting. I did dip into Daggerfall but was overwhelmed by the scope (and lack of flavor). And Oblivion (at least on the surface) felt so generic European fantasy. I had fun with it for a while (and I was much more disappointed in Gothic 3 which released same year), but it never quite captured my imagination as MOrrowind, or even Skyrim afterwards (which had a much stronger identity, even though it was basically Hollywood Vikingland).

He has a good point elsewhere in the article, though, that it remains to be seen if people are excited about Oblivion, or just about getting something Elder Scrolls at all (which is not another Skyrim edition ).

[Josquius]

I don't think it's aimed at people who played the original 20 years ago (am I really that old?) but rather kids who might baulk at the idea of playing something so old and dopey looking.