Victoria 3

[Syt]

I guess Craggy Island has a Chinatown now.

[Sheilbh]

"The Chinese - a great bunch of lads!"

[Norgy]

I know the sun never set on the Empire, but isn't Britain even a tad too aggressive in this game?

The Ottomans as the sick man of Europe has very early symptoms of falling apart and quickly falls out of the Great Power category.

I've seen Sweden form Scandinavia once. Without Norway. 
Norway just remained in the personal union.

[Syt]

First dev diary about next DLC:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/victoria-3-dev-diary-153-national-awakening.1853992/




Inevitably:

[Syt]

From the steam page:

[Syt]

And OPB's summary:

[The Minsky Moment]

New patch dropped.

No nerfs or changes to law commitments, so either these are WAD or any rebalance is being punted off to the next major revision.

[Tamas]

Thanks for the DLC stuff, Syt. Annoyingly it comes out two days after my two-weeks holiday ends.

Devil will be in the details. That JE with addressing the dozen or so ethnic demands. I hope it's much more nuanced than the similar Brazilian JE. Basically anything you do for the Hungarians should piss off most everyone else and vice versa.

[Syt]

New DD about Nationalism, National Fervor, Separatism, Culture Traits rework and Obstinance, spillover of movements and more. Pretty hyped about this, though I would imagine the balancing might be hard.

Then again, the trade rework seemed like a ludicrous change to implement, and it's improved the game so much IMHO.

Some snippets (more detail in OPB's video):



I suppose putting your universities into areas with repressed minorities might be a bad idea. Similar, recruiting only your minorities to send to war.

High fervor will make it harder to peace out an enemy. Might be useful for giving secession wars more of a chance to make it?


Also, maintaining subjects might be harder:


Effects of Obstinance of a nationalist movement:


Spillover of movements to neighboring countries:





Citizenship laws are a way of dealing with national fervor, esp. the new "Subjecthood":

[Tamas]

I need to go over the details but this is super exciting indeed.

[The Minsky Moment]

I suppose putting your universities into areas with repressed minorities might be a bad idea. Similar, recruiting only your minorities to send to war.

I believe Austria starts with public schools, presumably based on the Enlightenment era enactments mandating compulsory primary education, but which is a very generous view of the situation that actually prevailed in the 1830s. Anyways the I like the fact that the fervor mechanic imposes a penalty for driving up literacy.

[The Minsky Moment]

So I reviewed the Dev Diary and Paradox has really stepped in it this time.  If they think dealing with the Balkan jingoists is a problem, watch what reaction they will get when legions of Irish Boston Red Sox fans find that this patch is assimilating them into "Yankee"

Seriously . . .
I had assumed that this "immersion pack" was basically going to be some journal entries and a few more historical characters, which I guess does describe the core of the paid version.  The last "what's next" set a low bar expectation: "will be more focused on bug fixing, quality of life and general game polish."  This is not "general game polish," it's a complete overhaul of how cultures and nations work.  (May they meant "Polish" and not "polish"?)

Anyways, A for effort here and hopefully more good grades to come if the implementation sticks the landing.

[Syt]

So I reviewed the Dev Diary and Paradox has really stepped in it this time.  If they think dealing with the Balkan jingoists is a problem, watch what reaction they will get when legions of Irish Boston Red Sox fans find that this patch is assimilating them into "Yankee"

[Syt]

OPB mentioned agter his trip to Stockholm that there'll be a new law category: Labor Organization, ranging from Guilds to Independent Trade Unions. Guilds would be in place in e.g. Russia and make social mobility harder through barriers to gaining qualifications (while preserving social peace, I presume). OPB said it should make it harder to industrialize in such countries. I guess you can no longer trust on people eventually gaining the right eduction or moving to the right places? That with the incentive not to educate your people too much if you're an ethnically diverse reactionary Empire might make playing those countries definitely more challenging, I guess.