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Started by Octavian, June 07, 2012, 07:05:22 AM

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Valmy

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 08, 2012, 12:06:11 PM
The lesbians you know probably also have real jobs instead of whole communities working in some form of entertainment or other.  :rolleyes:

It's true :(
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Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on June 08, 2012, 11:08:32 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 08, 2012, 10:52:46 AM
From years of watching the L Word, I can say two things: Lesbians are horny as heck, and there is a tendency for more feminine and less feminine lesbians to pair up.

I have to say I know quite a few Lesbians but I do not really think this stereotype holds up...but then I do admit I do not know any super feminine or super masculine lesbians.  They are just...erm....sorta normal.

The fairly small sample size of lesbians I know reveals them to be fairly consistently opposed to make up, but otherwise fairly normal.

Of course half of those were Yukon lesbians...

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Martinus

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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 08, 2012, 10:52:46 AM
there is a tendency for more feminine and less feminine lesbians to pair up.

I think this is an "optical illusion".

What I mean by that, people are different, and that means different people are more masculine or feminine compared to each other. It is rare for an average guy to be more feminine than an average girl (so in heterosexual couples, in most cases the guy will be more masculine than the girl), but when you have two guys or two girls, one will almost always end up being more masculine or feminine than the other one, as it is very hard to find two people of the same gender who are exactly as masculine or feminine. This creates an illusion/stereotype that gay or lesbian pairings are based on this difference, which is not the case.

To test this theory, think about a gay pairing of two random heterosexual guys or two random heterosexual women you know - and you will realize that one will be the "butch" and the other the "femme" (and, depending on the pairing, not always the same one will have the same role).

Admiral Yi

The two lebiang couples that hang out at my boozer (one broke up a while back) come straight out of central casting.  Butch has the short spiked hair and the cuffed jeans.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Martinus on June 08, 2012, 02:49:17 PM
I think this is an "optical illusion".

Not so much on the show, they hardly ever put two "butch" girls together. There were a few lipstick pairings which were a sop to male viewers.
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Valmy

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 08, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
Not so much on the show, they hardly ever put two "butch" girls together. There were a few lipstick pairings which were a sop to male viewers.

TV fails us once more :(
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Malthus

Quote from: Valmy on June 08, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 08, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
Not so much on the show, they hardly ever put two "butch" girls together. There were a few lipstick pairings which were a sop to male viewers.

TV fails us once more :(

Not nearly as badly as porn has failed us on this topic!  :D
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derspiess

Quote from: Martinus on June 08, 2012, 02:49:17 PM
I think this is an "optical illusion".

Are you basing this on any actual knowledge has to how the butch/femme thing works with lesbians, or just extrapolating how it works with gay men?
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PDH

All I know is that when I got stopped in San Francisco because the Dykes on Bikes ride was going along a cross street the big mean looking butch lesbians had the little lipstick lesbians behind them on their Harleys.
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Valmy

Ok does butch mean big and mean looking or just having spikey hair and wearing jeans and stuff?  Because if it is the former I have never actually met a butch lesbian.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

PDH

Quote from: Valmy on June 08, 2012, 04:29:28 PM
Ok does butch mean big and mean looking or just having spikey hair and wearing jeans and stuff?  Because if it is the former I have never actually met a butch lesbian.

They Dykes on bikes are a special breed...
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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"I'm pretty sure my level of depression has nothing to do with how much of a fucking asshole you are."

-CdM

Admiral Yi

Butch means masculine.  Different ways of expressing it.

Barrister

The lesbians I know have been pretty ordinary looking.  Not "lipstick lesbians" and not noticeable "butch".  More like "comfortable pants and sensible shoes lesbians".  Oh and I think they all had fairly short (but not masculine) hair.
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