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Started by citizen k, June 05, 2012, 10:15:59 PM

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CountDeMoney

#360
June 07, 2012, 05:36:02 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 06, 2012, 10:47:54 PM
I was bored...

Baltimore Public Schools: $5000 ($5155 next year)

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-pupil-funding-20120313,0,7736671.story

Arlington Baptist School, Baltimore: $6450

http://www.arlingtonbaptistschool.org/Forms/2011-2012_Fee_Schedule.pdf

Archbishop Borders Elementary School, Baltimore: $5100 ($4800 tuition+$300 for books, registration, and archdiocese fees.)

http://www.abbschool.com/about_us.html#tuitplans

And to be equal, lets throw in a Jewish girl's school...

Bais Yaakov School for girls, in Owing Mills: $7855 - $9585 (depending on grade)

http://www.baisyaakov.net/about-bais-yaakov/fact-sheet

But to be fair, I scanned a few others that came in around the $5000 level, and as high as $14-15,000.  Point is, certainly not "substantially more".

Great.  So how about the rest of the country, think tanker?

CountDeMoney

#361
June 07, 2012, 05:37:29 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 06, 2012, 11:08:37 PM
When I was living in DC the spending per pupil was something like 13K.

I'm having a hard time swallowing 5K/year in Baltimore.

DC's always been fucked up administratively;  benefits of not being a state.

And Baltimore city schools don't need fire extinguishers anyway.

derspiess

#362
June 07, 2012, 10:35:01 AM
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

#363
June 07, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

#364
June 07, 2012, 11:06:55 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 07, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 07, 2012, 10:35:01 AM
Ripple effects from Wisconsin: http://www.waow.com/story/18727519/group-ends-michigan-recall-effort-after-wisconsin-results

Good, we do need more think tanks.

I hope they make it one of those that has an overly broad or outright deceptive name :)
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

The Minsky Moment

#365
June 07, 2012, 11:44:41 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 06, 2012, 05:58:40 PM
5 SC justices who have expressed approval of quid pro quos?  I'd love to hear their names Joan.

When you talked about public service unions "bribing" legislators, I assume you didn't mean literally bribery.  My response was in the same vein.

The Court (and its supporters) on this issue did not approve stricly quid pro quos, but they were very comfortable with the thinnest of tissues between the quid and the quo.   As an example, I read in the FT two days ago that approximately 80% of the negative campaign ads broadcast in April 2012 were ads attacking Obama on energy.  The campaign is being funded by various groups created and funded by the members of API.  Is there really any doubt that the companies funding these ads are doing it for any other reason than they expect that a Romney adminstration will extend them more favorable regulatory treatment?
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

alfred russel

#366
June 07, 2012, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 06, 2012, 06:54:59 PM
I already posted why this is a touchy issue for me.  I see you preening motherfuckers toasting the downfall of others.  So that maybe they can raise their children in the same way I was raised.  I've gotten tired of it here.  I'm tired of being people goading me into committing suicide, I'm tired of being insulted by jackasses, I'm tired of people I used to like and respect deciding to ignore me because they lost an argument.  I'm tired of your petty bullshit.  I'm taking a vacation.


Fuck off.

Raz, good luck, but you can't take this stuff so serious. This is an internet message board, nothing that is posted here is going to affect anything, and most of the anti union people are using this as an opportunity to gloat/troll.

There are also two sides to this. Your point of view isn't the only legitimate one out there.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

derspiess

#367
June 07, 2012, 01:05:04 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 07, 2012, 12:50:14 PM
most of the anti union people are using this as an opportunity to gloat

:o
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Habbaku

#368
June 07, 2012, 01:06:43 PM
Stop spiking the football, Spicy.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

derspiess

#369
June 07, 2012, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 07, 2012, 01:06:43 PM
Stop spiking the football, Spicy.

:rolleyes:  This is what democracy looks like.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Habbaku

#370
June 07, 2012, 01:19:57 PM
 :rolleyes: Democracy died two days ago.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

CountDeMoney

#371
June 07, 2012, 01:20:40 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 07, 2012, 01:06:43 PM
Stop spiking the football, Spicy.

Compared to the still-ongoing multiple orgasms Hansy's been having ever since, derfetuss has been downright magnanimous.

Valmy

#372
June 07, 2012, 01:22:20 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 07, 2012, 11:44:41 AM
The Court (and its supporters) on this issue did not approve stricly quid pro quos, but they were very comfortable with the thinnest of tissues between the quid and the quo.   As an example, I read in the FT two days ago that approximately 80% of the negative campaign ads broadcast in April 2012 were ads attacking Obama on energy.  The campaign is being funded by various groups created and funded by the members of API.  Is there really any doubt that the companies funding these ads are doing it for any other reason than they expect that a Romney adminstration will extend them more favorable regulatory treatment?

Members of Congress go to fund raising events with their supporters and they get up there and give a speech and what exactly are they saying besides 'hey give money to my efforts and here is how I will take care of you'?  It confuses me sometimes because on one hand everybody seems to know there are quid pro quos involved at certain points but refuse to believe it at others.  As if we all have to be two faced about it.  So Yi here can casually reference bribery involving the Unions but act like the sky is green when it comes to referencing the Supreme Court decision.

Puzzling.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

#373
June 07, 2012, 01:42:34 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 07, 2012, 01:19:57 PM
:rolleyes: Democracy died two days ago.

Fine.  This is what Democracy looks like when it's dead.  Happy??
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

#374
June 07, 2012, 01:57:38 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 07, 2012, 01:42:34 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 07, 2012, 01:19:57 PM
:rolleyes: Democracy died two days ago.

Fine.  This is what Democracy looks like when it's dead.  Happy??

He isn't a Soviet, so why would he be happy?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.
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