I for one welcome our new European Overlords

[Valmy]

If we were doing a North American Union we should include France since they own those little islands in Canada.

[Slargos]

Gotta love the EU...

"Saddled with a debt-driven economy?  We'll take you if you're white.  Swarthy middle-eastern NATO members need not apply."

If that were only so.

But if you were right, the greeks, spaniards, italians and irish would've never been invited.

Spain is a swarthy south-western NATO member!

Besides, Turks and Spaniards (notice the capital 'T' and 'S' you Nazi) are pretty much teh same color. The idea Turks are dark skinned Arabs is a figment of the good Count's imagination (or a trap set to show we care about colors... a curious trap, since he's the one minding them but whatever)

Oh, there is that little question about numbers: Iceland, with its 300,000 inhabitants is just an small snack. Turkey with its fast growing 75,000,000 inhabitants, is almost too much to bite (and has borders with Syria, Iraq... )

Oh, and Iceland has rich fisheries too 

Your spanish inanities will not be tolerated for much longer, dunecoon.

[ulmont]

If the US was pushing a North American Union, then promptly said "Oh, we really just meant Canada!" then you would have a point. It would be a shitty, Martyesque stupid analogy point, but at least you would have *something*.

In addition, Mexico would have to be begging to join.

Personally, I am in favor of incorporating any nation that votes to become part of the US as one or more new states.  The last new states were added in the 1950s; it's time for more.

[Eochaid]

If the US was pushing a North American Union, then promptly said "Oh, we really just meant Canada!" then you would have a point. It would be a shitty, Martyesque stupid analogy point, but at least you would have *something*.

Work on it.

I think you missed the sarcasm. If the US were ever to do something of the kind, it would obviously be easier to integrate Canada than Mexico.

My point is that although some (a lot) of people in Europe reject Turket out of fear (not necessary xenophobia, even if many of them are racist and xenophobic), Turkey's adhesion would raise some real issues.

I'm pro-Turkey, but I still think some kinks would have to be worked out.

Kevin

[Valmy]

In addition, Mexico would have to be begging to join.

Personally, I am in favor of incorporating any nation that votes to become part of the US as one or more new states.  The last new states were added in the 1950s; it's time for more.

Puerto Rico will be the 51st State sometime soon.

[ulmont]

Puerto Rico will be the 51st State sometime soon.

The sooner the better.

[Grey Fox]

In addition, Mexico would have to be begging to join.

Personally, I am in favor of incorporating any nation that votes to become part of the US as one or more new states.  The last new states were added in the 1950s; it's time for more.

Puerto Rico will be the 51st State sometime soon.

I don't know, Latinos are pretty lazy.

[Valmy]

I don't know, Latinos are pretty lazy.

Which is why they belong as part of modern America.

[Ed Anger]

Puerto Rico will be the 51st State sometime soon.

NO MORE TIMMAYS.

[Valmy]

NO MORE TIMMAYS.

Soon there will be two Tim's in the Senate reading out newsarticles and going and then sitting down.

[Syt]

In addition, Mexico would have to be begging to join.

Personally, I am in favor of incorporating any nation that votes to become part of the US as one or more new states.  The last new states were added in the 1950s; it's time for more.

Puerto Rico will be the 51st State sometime soon.

They should discuss with Great Britain first if they can be number 51.

[Ed Anger]

NO MORE TIMMAYS.

Soon there will be two Tim's in the Senate reading out newsarticles and going and then sitting down.

I feel sick. 

[garbon]

if you like the turks somuch, you make the 51st state of the Union.
but the recent escapades with the elections there, as well as the rasmussen thing have shown is that Turkey isn't ready yet to join the civilised world. And it might never be.

Well at least you are pretending that you have an objective stance.

[Valmy]

Well I can certainly see why they would be hesitant to simply bring in a country with a huge population and the largest birth rate outside of French Guiana.  A country like that could be a dominant force in the Union and would dramatically weaken the influence of the other members, the larger ones particularly.  Then you also factor in things like the Kurds and Cyprus and other headaches.

Iceland is a tiny nobody so is therefore pretty safe.

[Berkut]

It kind of depends on what the point of the Union is.

Is it to keep the already wealthy Western nations wealthy in competition with the US/China? If so, yeah, don't dilute yourselves with those poor brown people.

Or is it something more?