Hawaii verifies Obama birth records to Arizona

[Darth Wagtaros]

FBI now has a target.

[CountDeMoney]

FBI now has a target.

Yeah, I'll wait while they try to infiltrate for 8 months with somebody that'll be able to score me inert whore pills.  AT NO TIME WERE THE WHORE PILLS A THREAT TO THE PUBLIC

[Darth Wagtaros]

You just keep digging.

[Ed Anger]

Seedy is now in Macedonia at a CIA black site. 

I call dibs on his wargames.

[CountDeMoney]

I call dibs on his wargames.

Sorry, bro...they go up in flames once the forced entry breach starts.  I WILL FULFILL MY OWN PROPHESY

[Razgovory]

A century hence Obama will be looked at like Bleeding Kansas was to the Civil War.

So it's gonna get worse?  In what way?

I imagine the'll be another Oklahoma city.

[Ed Anger]

Sorry, bro...they go up in flames once the forced entry breach starts.  I WILL FULFILL MY OWN PROPHESY

There went my boarding party.

[DGuller]

A century hence Obama will be looked at like Bleeding Kansas was to the Civil War.

So it's gonna get worse?  In what way?

That's my concern.  Something has to give.  You can't run a country where one half of citizens is engaged in a zero-sum game against another one-half of citizens, not when running a country requires a gentleman's agreement to not conduct guerrilla warfare against the democratically-elected victor.  Something major has to happen to change the situation, it cannot de-escalate by itself.

[Admiral Yi]

That's my concern.  Something has to give.  You can't run a country where one half of citizens is engaged in a zero-sum game against another one-half of citizens, not when running a country requires a gentleman's agreement to not conduct guerrilla warfare against the democratically-elected victor.  Something major has to happen to change the situation, it cannot de-escalate by itself.

We need either a Congressional rule or an Amendment that if no budget is agreed upon, last year's budget is automatically in effect.

Other than that, vive gridlock.

[DGuller]

Other than that, vive gridlock.

This is another American conservative pathology I could never understand.  They think that the government is ineffective and incompetent, and yet they celebrate and look forward to the government being paralyzed.  Yeah, that'll fix it.  This kind of cynicism is corrupting to the core.

[Admiral Yi]

This is another American conservative pathology I could never understand.  They think that the government is ineffective and incompetent, and yet they celebrate and look forward to the government being paralyzed.  Yeah, that'll fix it.  This kind of cynicism is corrupting to the core.

Gridlock is not government being paralyzed.  Social Security checks get written, fighter patrols get scrambled, the FBI taps the phones, courts hand down rulings, student loans get processed, everything still works.

[Razgovory]

http://web.archive.org/web/20100104080736/http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Conservative+Free+Republic+blog+free+speech+flap+after+racial+slurs+directed+Obama+children/1782375/story.html

I wonder where people get the idea that there is racism behind some of the Obama Hate.

[Darth Wagtaros]

A century hence Obama will be looked at like Bleeding Kansas was to the Civil War.

So it's gonna get worse?  In what way?

That's my concern.  Something has to give.  You can't run a country where one half of citizens is engaged in a zero-sum game against another one-half of citizens, not when running a country requires a gentleman's agreement to not conduct guerrilla warfare against the democratically-elected victor.  Something major has to happen to change the situation, it cannot de-escalate by itself.

Yes.  Second Civil War. 

[CountDeMoney]

Other than that, vive gridlock.

This is another American conservative pathology I could never understand.  They think that the government is ineffective and incompetent, and yet they celebrate and look forward to the government being paralyzed.  Yeah, that'll fix it.  This kind of cynicism is corrupting to the core.

I like to think that Teabagger Richard Mourdock, who ousted Senator Richard Lugar out in Indiana in the GOP primary, summed it up best the day after the election:

"I have a mindset that says bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view. You know, I've said many times through this campaign that one of the things I hope to do is to help build a conservative majority in the United States Senate and continue to help the House build a Republican majority and have a Republican White House and then bipartisanship becomes having Democrats come our way."

At least he's paid his constituents with the courtesy of admitting he's not going to Washington to accomplish anything, even before his election.

That's the way they want it, and they're not going to budge until they get it.  Shame, really.  That's why they're going to shut down the government this summer.

[derspiess]

Something major has to happen to change the situation, it cannot de-escalate by itself.

Uh, things de-escalate on their own all the time.  I think you guys are being overly dramatic, like you have a conflict fetish or something.