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Syria Disintegrating: Part 2

Started by jimmy olsen, May 22, 2012, 01:22:34 AM

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An up to date map of the situation in Syria with a focus on the modest oil and gas fields



From this article here:

Syria conflict: Who benefits from its oil?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/50464561
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Turkey has announced that they have started an offensive against Syrian troops in the Idlib area. They stressed that they don't want a military confrontation with Russia.

Syria denies Turkish claims that one of their planes has been downed.
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The Syrian opposition is moving on Aleppo and has taken a big swath of surrounding territory.

Judging by tactics, the use of fpv drones and even the kit their soldiers use, they definitely got trained by Ukrainians.

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Quote from: Zoupa on November 28, 2024, 12:20:42 PMThe Syrian opposition is moving on Aleppo and has taken a big swath of surrounding territory.

Judging by tactics, the use of fpv drones and even the kit their soldiers use, they definitely got trained by Ukrainians.

I was reading something about that.

Quite frankly - the ongoing civil war in Syria is something I know almost nothing about (other than it's not over).

Who are the opposition?  They're bound to be better than Assad, but is it primarily Islamist?
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Syt

Also, how much support are the Russians still providing? How much of their personnel has moved to Ukraine to plug gaps?
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Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2024, 12:22:49 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on November 28, 2024, 12:20:42 PMThe Syrian opposition is moving on Aleppo and has taken a big swath of surrounding territory.

Judging by tactics, the use of fpv drones and even the kit their soldiers use, they definitely got trained by Ukrainians.

I was reading something about that.

Quite frankly - the ongoing civil war in Syria is something I know almost nothing about (other than it's not over).

Who are the opposition?  They're bound to be better than Assad, but is it primarily Islamist?

They're not the Taliban, but they're in the same ballpark. Mostly an offshoot of Al Qaeda, but they denounced them and repudiated affiliation. They keep the schools and university, general services in Idlib, north west Syria. Judicial system (such as it is) is based on Islamic law. I'd still take them over Assad. They (mostly) negotiate with other syrian factions instead of straight up murdering everyone like Assad does.

So all in all, not exactly good guys.

Zoupa

Quote from: Syt on November 28, 2024, 01:15:00 PMAlso, how much support are the Russians still providing? How much of their personnel has moved to Ukraine to plug gaps?

Diminished but still present. Most of the air assets have been moved back to russia proper, which is probably why we're seeing movement now.

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Quote from: Zoupa on November 28, 2024, 12:20:42 PMThe Syrian opposition is moving on Aleppo and has taken a big swath of surrounding territory.

Judging by tactics, the use of fpv drones and even the kit their soldiers use, they definitely got trained by Ukrainians.
Wow.
Didn't expect any movement there. I thought the regular opposition was basically beaten now and just held on sort of in a few fringe places.
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Well also Hezbollah have taken a pounding.
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There are rumors that Turkey finally saw the light and let USA personal fully study thier S-400 systems in exchange to be able to get back into the F-35 program.

Might be a thing or it's Russian copium.
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Quote from: Grey Fox on November 30, 2024, 08:29:28 AMThere are rumors that Turkey finally saw the light and let USA personal fully study thier S-400 systems in exchange to be able to get back into the F-35 program.

Might be a thing or it's Russian copium.

Or a Turkish diversion for their support of islamist groups recently on the offensive vs the Assad regime in Alep.

mongers

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 30, 2024, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 30, 2024, 08:29:28 AMThere are rumors that Turkey finally saw the light and let USA personal fully study thier S-400 systems in exchange to be able to get back into the F-35 program.

Might be a thing or it's Russian copium.

Or a Turkish diversion for their support of islamist groups recently on the offensive vs the Assad regime in Alep.

Maybe more broadly it's part of a rapprochement with Israel, weaken Assad's Syria, endanger Hezbollah's supply lines, perhaps eventually topple it and in return Israel back peddles on salting the earth in Gaza, calling a ceasefire and perhaps seeing Turkish troops as put of a future peacekeeping/occupation force.

And once more Recep Tayyip Erdoğan gets to strut is stuff on the world stage, a necessary distraction of the Turkish people away from the domestic economy.

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