Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Grey Fox]

Anti-colonialism is not a consistently logic ideology.

[crazy canuck]

You had plenty of people defending Assad, denying his crimes, while demanding the destruction of the country next door.

Can you give an example of that, and who those people were that you are referring to?

Stop the War Coalition, electric intafada, Greyzone, Seymour Hersh, Glenn Greenwald.

OK, you gave examples of the people, now give an example of what they said.

[Razgovory]

Stop the War coalition silenced people Syrians who spoke out against Assad in Britain, Seymour Hersh denied the gas attacks, I think Glenn Greenwald did as well.  Actually that might apply to all of them.

[Legbiter]

Yeah this is a bona fide invasion instead of a raid. And the perpetrators are flooding social media with their Commanche/Yamnaya behavior.



If I were the Israelis I'd basically bulldoze Gaza City and all it's inhabitants into the Mediterranean.

The gazans murdered the children with their bare hands and gave back some random body instead of the mother and claimed they had all been killed in an airstrike.

[Valmy]

Stop the War coalition silenced people Syrians who spoke out against Assad in Britain

Well a lot of good that did Assad. Should have silenced people who spoke out against Assad in Syria.

[The Minsky Moment]

Stop the War coalition silenced people Syrians who spoke out against Assad in Britain

Well a lot of good that did Assad. Should have silenced people who spoke out against Assad in Syria.

He tried his best but even Hitler and Stalin struggled to get the murder count into the tens of millions.  You can't expect a second rate thug like Assad to keep up with peak SS and NKVD.

[garbon]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/24/icc-biden-gaza-war

ICC urged to investigate Biden for 'aiding and abetting' Gaza war crimes

A US-based nonprofit organization has urged the international criminal court to investigate former president Joe Biden and two of his cabinet members for complicity in war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza.

The request, submitted by the Democracy for the Arab World Now (Dawn) last month but made public by the group on Monday, urges the ICC to investigate Biden, as well as former secretary of state Antony Blinken and former defense secretary Lloyd Austin, for their "accessorial roles in aiding and abetting, as well as intentionally contributing to, Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza".

Last year, the ICC issued arrest warrants for Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former defense minister Yoav Gallant, as well as Hamas military leader Mohammed Deif, who was recently confirmed by Hamas to have been killed, for alleged war crimes relating to the Gaza war.

Dawn's 172-page submission, which the group says was prepared with the support of ICC-registered lawyers and other war crimes experts, alleges that the former US officials violated articles of the Rome statute, the court's founding charter, in their support for Israel.

According to a press release, the group's submission to the ICC lays out what it describes as a "a pattern of deliberate and purposeful decisions by these officials to provide military, political, and public support to facilitate Israeli crimes in Gaza", including "at least $17.9bn of weapons transfers, intelligence sharing, targeting assistance, diplomatic protection, and official endorsement of Israeli crimes, despite knowledge of how such support had and would substantially enable grave abuses".

One passage from the submission alleges that "by continuously and unconditionally providing political support and military support to Israel while being fully aware of the specific crimes committed by Netanyahu, Gallant, and their subordinates, President Biden, Secretary Blinken, and Secretary Austin contributed intentionally to the commission of those crimes while at least knowing the intention of the group to commit the Israeli crimes, if not aiming of furthering such criminal activity".

Dawn's executive director, Sarah Leah Whitson, said in a statement that "not only did Biden, Blinken and Secretary Austin ignore and justify the overwhelming evidence of Israel's grotesque and deliberate crimes, overruling their own staff recommendations to halt weapons transfers to Israel, they doubled down by providing Israel with unconditional military and political support to ensure it could carry out its atrocities".

The statement also points to the political support the US provided to Israel through its veto of multiple ceasefire resolutions at the UN security council.

Earlier this month, Donald Trump signed an executive order that authorizes aggressive economic sanctions against the ICC, accusing the body of "illegitimate and baseless actions" targeting the US and Israel.

In the statement on Monday, Dawn also stated that Trump's order against the ICC could subject him to "individual criminal liability for obstruction of justice".

The group also added that if Trump were to implement his proposed plan to forcibly displace all Palestinians from Gaza and to take over the territory, it would also subject him to "individual liability for war crimes and the crime of aggression".

Raed Jarrar, Dawn's advocacy director, said the plan merited an ICC investigation, "not just for aiding and abetting Israeli crimes but for ordering forcible transfer, a crime against humanity under the Rome statute".

[The Minsky Moment]

Yes that's the priority in the world today.  Going after Joe Biden for war crimes.