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Syria Disintegrating: Part 2

Started by jimmy olsen, May 22, 2012, 01:22:34 AM

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Ed Anger

Quote from: Razgovory on November 24, 2012, 06:53:03 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 24, 2012, 05:21:58 PM
Quote from: Syt on November 20, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
Our whole school was protesting against the '91 Gulf War (I was 14 at the time). I and three others out of 400+ students refused to go because we were in favor of military action. Our teachers weren't happy, but they respected our decision. We even got interviewed by the local paper.

91?  The first one?  The no-brainer?   :huh:

I was 10 at the time.  I got Gulf War trading cards. :)  I still have Dick Cheney's rookie card.

He is like a mint pikachu.
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jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Viking

Quote from: Neil on November 24, 2012, 07:46:20 PM
Quote from: Viking on November 24, 2012, 05:29:45 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 24, 2012, 05:21:58 PM
Quote from: Syt on November 20, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
Our whole school was protesting against the '91 Gulf War (I was 14 at the time). I and three others out of 400+ students refused to go because we were in favor of military action. Our teachers weren't happy, but they respected our decision. We even got interviewed by the local paper.
91?  The first one?  The no-brainer?   :huh:
Rely on the pacifists to side with the fascist imperialist dictators against the democracies.
The Germans weren't siding with Saddam.  They just felt that doing anything to prevent him from conquring the Middle East would be wrong.  Actually, in that the German national character has always been consistent:  It's always wrong to stop an aggressive dictator from conquering whatever he likes.

Quote from: Edmund BurkeAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Neil

I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Viking

Quote from: Neil on November 25, 2012, 07:44:17 PM
The Germans aren't good men.

They had good men. Carl von Ossietsky, Martin Niemöller etc.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

jimmy olsen

Rebels capture a helicopter base outside Damascus.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/25/15440024-syrian-rebels-take-airbase?lite

I don't think Assad's going to last much longer. Six months more at most.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Grinning_Colossus

The next Friedman Unit will be crucial.
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

jimmy olsen

Rebel cavalry and artillery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsZCRzJzR58

Rebs continue to advance. Unless he breaks out the gas, then he's going down within a few months.
http://www.france24.com/en/20121126-syria-rebels-cut-off-most-roads-aleppo
Quote26 November 2012 - 16H21 

Syria rebels cut off most roads to Aleppo

AFP - Syrian rebels aiming to encircle Aleppo virtually cut off roads to the battleground city from neighbouring Raqa province as the army targeted rebel strongholds around Damascus on Monday.

After several days of fighting, the insurgents took full control of Tishrin dam on the Euphrates river, a route that connects the northern provinces of Aleppo and Raqa, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

A resident of nearby Manbij confirmed the report, adding that employees of the six-turbine hydropower dam were continuing operations.

"The capture of the Tishrin dam is very important. It means that the army basically has only one road left to Aleppo," Observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman told AFP by telephone.

"The highway crossing over the Tishrin dam was the last main route from Raqa province under regime control. Now it is impassable," he said, noting that another small bridge exists further north but the road is difficult.

Another main route further south is dotted with regime and rebel checkpoints.

With the overnight capture, the rebels now hold sway over a wide expanse of territory between the two provinces bordering Turkey, which backs the revolt against President Bashar al-Assad.

The army must now rely on the Damascus-Aleppo highway to bring reinforcements to Syria's embattled commercial hub of Aleppo, where fighting is deadlocked.

Further west, a warplane launched three bombs or rockets at a rebel command centre in Atme near the Turkish border on Monday, without causing casualties or hitting its target, an AFP journalist said.

The village, a nerve centre of the rebellion two kilometres (1.2 miles) from Turkey, was once home to 7,000 inhabitants who have largely fled.

In a sign of growing confidence, rebel officers have formed a commission to lay the groundwork for a future army and liaise with the political opposition on issues such as arming fighters on the ground, a spokesman said on Monday.

He said the Free Officers Assembly will seek "to lay the correct foundations for the construction of the new Syrian army, which will be a non-partisan defender of the rights and dignity of the people," working with the opposition National Coalition.

Faced with an increasingly offensive revolt, the regime has been reducing its territorial ambitions to focus on Damascus, central Syria and Alawite bastions, as it digs in for a long war, analysts say.

As part of this effort, troops have been bombing rebel positions in the outskirts of the capital, including in Daraya, the site of the worst massacre in the 20-month conflict.

The Syrian National Council, a leading opposition group, on Monday said more than 130 people have been killed in the town in three weeks. According to the Observatory, rebels account for 80 percent of the deaths.

Pro-government daily Al-Watan said on Monday that troops were advancing on Daraya and had inflicted heavy losses on "Al-Qaeda terrorists".

Prime Minister Wael al-Halaqi, meanwhile, laid the foundation stone for a new housing project in Damascus, vowing that " despite all the challenges facing Syria, the development process will continue."

The Observatory, which relies on a network of activists and medics for its information, gave an initial toll of 19 people killed on Monday. It has recorded a total of more than 40,000 deaths in the Syrian conflict.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Sheilbh

A lot of these rebel victories have apparently been because Assad's had to withdraw a lot of forces to defend his position in Damascus.
Let's bomb Russia!

DGuller

Quote from: Sheilbh on November 27, 2012, 11:37:47 PM
A lot of these rebel victories have apparently been because Assad's had to withdraw a lot of forces to defend his position in Damascus.
That's still a victory for the rebels, it's just that the credit belongs to those who threatened Damascus.  You can't survive indefinitely by holing up in the capital while giving up the rest of the country, as Qaddafi learned.


jimmy olsen

Rebels are shooting down aircraft with manpads now.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/28/syrian-rebel-missiles-assad-aircraft?CMP=SOCxx2I2

Assad shut the internet off for the whole country.

http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/11/syria-off-the-air.shtml

With his air superiority in peril, is now going to escalate by gassing the rebels? He must be about to do something he really doesn't want the world to know about. And given that he hasn't cared to try and cover up the preceding 40,000 fatalities, it must pretty damn bad.  :hmm:
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Queequeg

Gas would probably result in NATO troops in-country within the next few months, wouldn't it?
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Jacob

Hey Tim! Did you hear? Assad has shut down internet access in Syria!

Ed Anger

I heard that internet access was shut off. You heard it from me first.
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