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Started by Fireblade, April 16, 2012, 01:06:13 PM

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Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on April 18, 2012, 12:35:59 PM
Considering Canada is our #1 trading partner I would think there would be a powerful lobby against that sort of action.

Why - the US has already imposed drastically stricter border controls in the lst ten years despite zero evidence of any security threat coming from this country.  Imagine what you guys would do if you actually had a reason?
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PDH

Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2012, 12:38:43 PM
Why - the US has already imposed drastically stricter border controls in the lst ten years despite zero evidence of any security threat coming from this country.  Imagine what you guys would do if you actually had a reason?

We needed to do that because Canadians attacked the US Capital once already.  They are a nation of terrorists.
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grumbler

Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2012, 12:38:43 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 18, 2012, 12:35:59 PM
Considering Canada is our #1 trading partner I would think there would be a powerful lobby against that sort of action.

Why - the US has already imposed drastically stricter border controls in the lst ten years despite zero evidence of any security threat coming from this country.  Imagine what you guys would do if you actually had a reason?

Good question; what would Valmy et al do if they had a reason?
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Valmy

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Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2012, 12:38:43 PM
Why - the US has already imposed drastically stricter border controls in the lst ten years despite zero evidence of any security threat coming from this country.  Imagine what you guys would do if you actually had a reason?

Have these impacted trade at all?  There is not really a strong 'freedom to cross borders' lobby in DC.
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Valmy

Quote from: grumbler on April 18, 2012, 12:43:42 PM
Good question; what would Valmy et al do if they had a reason?

This is the second time you have made comments about this.  Am I not supposed to use 'we' when referring to the government of the country I live in?  I was not aware of this protocol but if it is a problem I can refer to 'the US government' if it makes you happy.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on April 18, 2012, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 18, 2012, 12:43:42 PM
Good question; what would Valmy et al do if they had a reason?

This is the second time you have made comments about this.  Am I not supposed to use 'we' when referring to the government of the country I live in?  I was not aware of this protocol but if it is a problem I can refer to 'the US government' if it makes you happy.

I similarily didn't see what the problem was in using "you guys" to refer to the US, but if it is something grumbles has a bee in his bonnet over then I'll take it under advisement.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on April 18, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2012, 12:38:43 PM
Why - the US has already imposed drastically stricter border controls in the lst ten years despite zero evidence of any security threat coming from this country.  Imagine what you guys would do if you actually had a reason?

Have these impacted trade at all?  There is not really a strong 'freedom to cross boarders' lobby in DC.

Supposedly, though I don't know if there have been hard numbers.  Longer wait times at the border have caused havoc for just in time manufacturers relying on cross-border components, for example.
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They would build a wall between the two countries.

Question is...would they use brick or wood? :hmm:
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grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on April 18, 2012, 12:45:39 PM
This is the second time you have made comments about this.  Am I not supposed to use 'we' when referring to the government of the country I live in?  I was not aware of this protocol but if it is a problem I can refer to 'the US government' if it makes you happy.
If you are a member of the group being discussed, then you use the first person plural.  If not, you don't. 

If you mean a person or group that you do not belong to, then first person is not appropriate.  This isn't a "protocol," it is just a rule of grammar.  And, yes, it would make me happy to have you and others use proper grammar.  All that improper "us" and "you" makes trolling too easy.
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grumbler

Valmy:  saying "our #1 trading partner" is, of course, fine.  You are part of the group that trades with Canada.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

grumbler

Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2012, 12:49:14 PM
I similarily didn't see what the problem was in using "you guys" to refer to the US, but if it is something grumbles has a bee in his bonnet over then I'll take it under advisement.
"You guys" when responding to a poster who is not one of the guys (who would make the rules) is poor usage of the language.  It's not a difficult rule, once you understand the concept of first, second, and third person.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Barrister

Quote from: grumbler on April 18, 2012, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2012, 12:49:14 PM
I similarily didn't see what the problem was in using "you guys" to refer to the US, but if it is something grumbles has a bee in his bonnet over then I'll take it under advisement.
"You guys" when responding to a poster who is not one of the guys (who would make the rules) is poor usage of the language.  It's not a difficult rule, once you understand the concept of first, second, and third person.

But as a voter, surely Valmy is one of those involved in making the rules.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Neil

Quote from: Valmy on April 18, 2012, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 18, 2012, 12:43:42 PM
Good question; what would Valmy et al do if they had a reason?

This is the second time you have made comments about this.  Am I not supposed to use 'we' when referring to the government of the country I live in?  I was not aware of this protocol but if it is a problem I can refer to 'the US government' if it makes you happy.
It's best to ignore grumbler.  He's a faggot.
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Neil

Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2012, 01:21:37 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 18, 2012, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 18, 2012, 12:49:14 PM
I similarily didn't see what the problem was in using "you guys" to refer to the US, but if it is something grumbles has a bee in his bonnet over then I'll take it under advisement.
"You guys" when responding to a poster who is not one of the guys (who would make the rules) is poor usage of the language.  It's not a difficult rule, once you understand the concept of first, second, and third person.
But as a voter, surely Valmy is one of those involved in making the rules.
Valmy is not a US citizen.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.