Woman goes to ER, kicked out for trespassing, dies in jail.

Started by jimmy olsen, April 02, 2012, 04:30:10 AM

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grumbler

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 04, 2012, 11:12:38 AM
I noticed that Grumbler once again wishes to go down a semantic rabbit hole to avoid the idiocy of his first statments that this sort of thing could not be diagnosed by a emergency room physician because rather surprisingly emergency room physicians are not able to do so.  That sort of uniformed comment should be corrected.  Now that it has I can ignore the rest of Grumbler's foolishness.
I don't think anyone is confusing your rearrangement of my argument with my actual argument.  I don't blame you for trying to weasel out of your strawman arguments.  They were, as you yourself noted, foolish.  I agree with you that it is better for whatever remains of your cred that you slink away (or, as you reword your rout, "ignore the rest of" [my arguments]).  ;)
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garbon

Btw, when I had to had tests run, my physicians just wrote a "prescription" of what I needed done and it was up to me to find a testing center. :(
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derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2012, 07:59:41 PM
Ah, so being a mom is somehow unneutral.  Despite being accurate.  I suppose it's not accepted.  Perhaps the article should have been title "Human ceases to live".  I guess this is part of that "Liberal Media" conspiracy theory that I don't understand.


Okay, here's my journo friend's response.  I had simply asked him what he thought about the headline.

QuoteI think that's a bad headline -- what you have to weigh is the fact that she's a mother relevant to the story. In this case, it's not -- it's secondary or tertiary at best. I think they are using this to gain additional sympathy for the homeless woman. It sounds more tragic if she's a "mom" rather than a woman.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: garbon on April 04, 2012, 11:35:00 AM
Btw, when I had to had tests run, my physicians just wrote a "prescription" of what I needed done and it was up to me to find a testing center. :(

Yeah, exactly, any doctor with a pad can order a test if the doctor thinks the test is necessary to treat, for example, a patient in an emergency ward.  The issue on these facts is it seems apparent there was nothing to alert these doctors to the fact she was suffering from blood clots.

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on April 04, 2012, 11:39:20 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 02, 2012, 07:59:41 PM
Ah, so being a mom is somehow unneutral.  Despite being accurate.  I suppose it's not accepted.  Perhaps the article should have been title "Human ceases to live".  I guess this is part of that "Liberal Media" conspiracy theory that I don't understand.


Okay, here's my journo friend's response.  I had simply asked him what he thought about the headline.

QuoteI think that's a bad headline -- what you have to weigh is the fact that she's a mother relevant to the story. In this case, it's not -- it's secondary or tertiary at best. I think they are using this to gain additional sympathy for the homeless woman. It sounds more tragic if she's a "mom" rather than a woman.

I suppose it sounds more tragic if she's a woman as well.
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Caliga

I agree with spiess and his friend... but I thought the reason for the 'mom' headline was pretty obvious from the beginning.
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katmai

It clearly means there are now homeless orphans you cretins!
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Quote from: katmai on April 04, 2012, 05:59:38 PM
It clearly means there are now homeless orphans you cretins!

The kids are living with Grandma. The court wouldn't let mom stay with them.
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katmai

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 04, 2012, 06:03:32 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 04, 2012, 05:59:38 PM
It clearly means there are now homeless orphans you cretins!

The kids are living with Grandma. The court wouldn't let mom stay with them.

you expect me to READ the thread?  :rolleyes:
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: katmai on April 04, 2012, 06:06:45 PM
you expect me to READ the thread?  :rolleyes:

If I expected that, why would I give you the Cliff Notes?  :huh:  :P
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derspiess

Quote from: katmai on April 04, 2012, 05:59:38 PM
It clearly means there are now homeless orphans you cretins!

Neither Matt nor myself were ever homeless orphans!
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