Trayvon Martin case: use of Stand Your Ground law or pursuit of a black teen?

Started by jimmy olsen, March 21, 2012, 11:32:23 PM

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Caliga

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April 01, 2012, 01:12:52 PM
Jaron?
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derspiess

#646
April 04, 2012, 11:58:02 AM
Looks like NBC sorta apologized for the "error" in the way they edited Zimmerman's 911 call tape.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/04/04/trayvon-martin-nbc-apologizes/

QuoteTrayvon Martin: NBC apologizes for misleading edit of 9-1-1 call
by Associated Press

NBC News has admitted it erred and has apologized for editing a recording of George Zimmerman's call to police the night he shot Trayvon Martin.
In a news report last week, NBC's Today show aired its edited version of Zimmerman's call. The recording viewers heard was trimmed to suggest that Zimmerman volunteered to police, with no prompting, that Martin was black. But the portion of the tape that was cut out had the 911 dispatcher asking Zimmerman if the person who had raised his suspicion was "black, white or Hispanic," to which Zimmerman responded, "He looks black."

Later that night of Feb. 26, the 17-year-old Martin was fatally shot by Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer in Sanford, Fla. Though Martin was unarmed, Zimmerman told police he fired in self-defense after Martin attacked him. Questions have arisen over whether Zimmerman had been racially profiling the youth, a theory the edited version of the tape seemed to support.

In a statement on Tuesday, NBC said its investigation turned up "an error made in the production process that we deeply regret." It provided no details.

The network promised "necessary steps" would be taken "to prevent this from happening in the future," and apologized to viewers.
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Razgovory

#647
April 04, 2012, 11:59:02 AM
I thought you liked it when people edited videos.
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crazy canuck

#648
April 04, 2012, 12:01:00 PM
Any evidence the call showing martin was the only one calling for help was edited?

derspiess

#649
April 04, 2012, 12:03:17 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 11:59:02 AM
I thought you liked it when people edited videos.

Did I?
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Razgovory

#650
April 04, 2012, 12:18:24 PM
Yeah, with that Breitbart guy.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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derspiess

#651
April 04, 2012, 02:14:13 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 12:18:24 PM
Yeah, with that Breitbart guy.

Which ones?
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grumbler

#652
April 04, 2012, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 04, 2012, 12:03:17 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 11:59:02 AM
I thought you liked it when people edited videos.

Did I?
:lol:  i can't believe you are falling for this.
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Jacob

#653
April 04, 2012, 03:18:25 PM
So did you guys hear about the marine vet who got shot by police in his own home because his medical alert bracelet malfunctioned?

Seems outlandish: http://boingboing.net/2012/04/03/black-marine-veteran-68-shot.html

Malthus

#656
April 04, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 04, 2012, 03:18:25 PM
So did you guys hear about the marine vet who got shot by police in his own home because his medical alert bracelet malfunctioned?

Seems outlandish: http://boingboing.net/2012/04/03/black-marine-veteran-68-shot.html

The incident happened all right. At least according to snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/chamberlain.asp

What the boingboing article fails to mention, of course, is the cop's side of the story - that the guy attacked them with a knife and a hatchet when they responded to a call triggered by his medic alert.

Which may well be total bull - but allegedly, the incident was all caught on tape, so  presumably all will out.
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crazy canuck

#657
April 04, 2012, 03:38:11 PM
Yeah, the Boingboing article makes it sound like the guy was asleep when the police entered.  Also the NY Times articles certainly implies the person shot was suffering from some kind of mental illness/distress and the upshot is the police should have de-escalated the situation.


Boingboing seems to be a bust.

Razgovory

#658
April 04, 2012, 03:41:36 PM
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#659
April 04, 2012, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 04, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
What the boingboing article fails to mention, of course, is the cop's side of the story - that the guy attacked them with a knife and a hatchet when they responded to a call triggered by his medic alert.

Which may well be total bull - but allegedly, the incident was all caught on tape, so  presumably all will out.

Well the case is about to be presented to the Grand Jury so it seems like the authorities are on top of it.  I find it hard to believe tazers couldn't take down a 68 year old with heart problems.
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