Trayvon Martin case: use of Stand Your Ground law or pursuit of a black teen?

Started by jimmy olsen, March 21, 2012, 11:32:23 PM

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derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 01:42:03 PM
And you've shot lots of people who were sitting on you?

No.  But I have watched a lot of hunting shows :ph34r:
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Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on March 29, 2012, 01:47:13 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 01:42:03 PM
And you've shot lots of people who were sitting on you?

No.  But I have watched a lot of hunting shows :ph34r:

Did they make it a point to shoot deer that are standing people?
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 04:13:39 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 29, 2012, 01:47:13 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 01:42:03 PM
And you've shot lots of people who were sitting on you?

No.  But I have watched a lot of hunting shows :ph34r:

Did they make it a point to shoot deer that are standing people?

May I mambo dogface to the banana patch? 
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

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garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on March 29, 2012, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 04:13:39 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 29, 2012, 01:47:13 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2012, 01:42:03 PM
And you've shot lots of people who were sitting on you?

No.  But I have watched a lot of hunting shows :ph34r:

Did they make it a point to shoot deer that are standing people?

May I mambo dogface to the banana patch?

Er sorry.  Did they shoot any deer that were standing on top of people?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall



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Barrister

Quote from: Phillip V on March 30, 2012, 07:00:34 AM
George Zimmerman lost job as party security guard for being too aggressive

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-lost-job-party-security-guard-aggressive-ex-co-worker-article-1.1053223

You know there's a reason why courts do not consider character evidence as a general rule - it doesn't tell us a damn thing about what happened on the specific night in question.

So all these stories about "ZOMG Zimmerman was fired from a job seven years ago!" and "WTF Martin was suspended for having a pot bag" are worse than useless.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Barrister on March 30, 2012, 08:57:54 AM
You know there's a reason why courts do not consider character evidence as a general rule - it doesn't tell us a damn thing about what happened on the specific night in question.

Obviously the police that night didn't think so, either.

Malthus

Quote from: Barrister on March 30, 2012, 08:57:54 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on March 30, 2012, 07:00:34 AM
George Zimmerman lost job as party security guard for being too aggressive

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-lost-job-party-security-guard-aggressive-ex-co-worker-article-1.1053223

You know there's a reason why courts do not consider character evidence as a general rule - it doesn't tell us a damn thing about what happened on the specific night in question.

So all these stories about "ZOMG Zimmerman was fired from a job seven years ago!" and "WTF Martin was suspended for having a pot bag" are worse than useless.

... unless it amounts to similar fact evidence. Which admittedly is a reasonably narrow enquiry.
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