Trayvon Martin case: use of Stand Your Ground law or pursuit of a black teen?

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Phillip V

#601
March 29, 2012, 05:44:02 AM
'A security video that shows neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman being led in handcuffs from a police car after he fatally shot Trayvon Martin is adding to the debate over whether the shooting was a case of self-defense.

An attorney for the teen's family said it looks to him that Zimmerman doesn't have injuries to his face and head in the video as Zimmerman's supporters have said.'









Surveillance video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0fQhGDxRo

11B4V

#602
March 29, 2012, 05:46:54 AM
He's not white!  <_<
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CountDeMoney

#603
March 29, 2012, 06:37:51 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 29, 2012, 05:46:54 AM
He's not white!  <_<

Nor is the back of his head red.  Where's all the blood from the repeated smashing of the back of his head onto the concrete?

grumbler

#604
March 29, 2012, 06:37:55 AM
Quote from: Jacob on March 28, 2012, 07:15:40 PM
My real outrage about this is that the local PD responded to the call about Zimmerman shooting someone, and didn't investigate further on Zimmerman's say-so. Whether it's individual racists in the PD department, institutional racism, a bad combination of laws or some other causes, the end result is clearly injust; the shooting of an unarmed teenager minding his own business should at the very least result in a thorough investigation of the facts. That it didn't is a travesty.

As more facts come out, it isn't clear to me that the initial assertions that there was no investigation are correct.  Have you found a source that flat-out states that there was no thorough investigation?

I agree 100% that a thorough investigation was called for.  I don't agree that we currently know such an investigation never happened, and so we should be outraged.
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CountDeMoney

#605
March 29, 2012, 06:40:00 AM
There are investigations, and then there are investigations.

grumbler

#606
March 29, 2012, 06:44:04 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 29, 2012, 05:46:54 AM
He's not white!  <_< 

No one in those videos is white.  They are all kinda beige.  It's not high-quality imaging, though, so the colors may be off.

The police car is white, though, so maybe the colors are not so off.
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CountDeMoney

#607
March 29, 2012, 06:44:56 AM
Quote from: grumbler on March 29, 2012, 06:44:04 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 29, 2012, 05:46:54 AM
He's not white!  <_< 

No one in those videos is white.  They are all kinda beige.  It's not high-quality imaging, though, so the colors may be off.

The police car is white, though, so maybe the colors are not so off.

Looks like the auto-iris is off a bit on the cameras.  Everybody looked flesh-colored.

11B4V

#608
March 29, 2012, 06:53:08 AM
Quote from: grumbler on March 29, 2012, 06:44:04 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 29, 2012, 05:46:54 AM
He's not white!  <_< 

No one in those videos is white.  They are all kinda beige.  It's not high-quality imaging, though, so the colors may be off.

The police car is white, though, so maybe the colors are not so off.

Color blind old man. Those cops are def. crackers.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

grumbler

#609
March 29, 2012, 06:57:57 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 29, 2012, 06:53:08 AM
Color blind old man. Those cops are def. crackers.

Grandpa, "def. crackers" isn't a color.
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CountDeMoney

#610
March 29, 2012, 06:58:51 AM
grumbler was thrown for a moment because he didn't see any call boxes.

Razgovory

#611
March 29, 2012, 07:16:49 AM Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 07:25:23 AM by Razgovory
Kind of figured he might be a bit more blood splattered.  What with shooting a guy who was on sitting him and beating his head into the pavement.
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DGuller

#612
March 29, 2012, 07:21:21 AM
So, when did he get bloodied?  During police interview at the station?

Razgovory

#613
March 29, 2012, 07:22:33 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 29, 2012, 07:21:21 AM
So, when did he get bloodied?  During police interview at the station?

Well, that is the traditional time for a suspect to get bloody.
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Faeelin

#614
March 29, 2012, 07:23:56 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 29, 2012, 06:37:51 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 29, 2012, 05:46:54 AM
He's not white!  <_<

Nor is the back of his head red.  Where's all the blood from the repeated smashing of the back of his head onto the concrete?

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