Trayvon Martin case: use of Stand Your Ground law or pursuit of a black teen?

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Admiral Yi

#345
March 26, 2012, 07:40:11 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 26, 2012, 07:34:09 PM
That doesnt matter. What is the news calling him? I havent really followed this.

Everything I've seen has him as beaner/Wonder Bread combo plate.

11B4V

#346
March 26, 2012, 07:40:34 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2012, 07:38:40 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 26, 2012, 07:34:09 PM
That doesnt matter. What is the news calling him? I havent really followed this.

I saw Reuters call him "white-hispanic" in a recent article.  I don't think I've ever seen that until this particular story.

Technically he is white.
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crazy canuck

#347
March 26, 2012, 07:43:04 PM
Technically he is white?

Glad you folks have your race identification down.  I cant make head or tale of it.

MadBurgerMaker

#348
March 26, 2012, 07:44:19 PM
I've never seen them combine the two in news reports.  Mostly because no one who isn't a weirdo does that except on the census forms, and as mentioned, that has caused problems.

Razgovory

#349
March 26, 2012, 07:46:06 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 26, 2012, 07:37:35 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2012, 07:31:13 PM
Maybe they don't like black people?

Exactly my point.  Why is antipathy towards blacks (or as DGuller would say, "the blacks") a necessary precondition to be bothered by a prosecutor trying to railroad a conviction and Al triumphantly throwing down the racism card?

Prosecutor's railroad people all the time.  Ditto with Al Sharpton.  The guy will fold if any of the cards in his had aren't either spades or clubs.  Why are conservatives so smug about that particular case?  Duke Lacross has been tossed around several times by conservatives, which is odd since this isn't a rape case.  People are found to be unfairly convicted of crimes (including murder) all the time.  Yet conservatives seem to fixate on the Duke LaCrosse.  Why?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Neil

#350
March 26, 2012, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2012, 07:39:44 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 26, 2012, 07:34:09 PM
That doesnt matter. What is the news calling him? I havent really followed this.
Hispanic and white.  You can be both you know.
Nope.  Once you get a drop of Mediterranean blood in you, you're permanently inferior.
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Razgovory

#351
March 26, 2012, 07:47:48 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 26, 2012, 07:40:34 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 26, 2012, 07:38:40 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 26, 2012, 07:34:09 PM
That doesnt matter. What is the news calling him? I havent really followed this.

I saw Reuters call him "white-hispanic" in a recent article.  I don't think I've ever seen that until this particular story.

Technically he is white.

So the shooter wasn't actually white but merely technically white?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Phillip V

#352
March 26, 2012, 07:48:17 PM Last Edit: March 26, 2012, 07:50:44 PM by Phillip V
Zimmerman's father is a white non-Hispanic (German-American), and his mother is a white Hispanic (Peruvian-American).


In another half-century or less, Latinos will become "normal whites" in America like the Irish and Italians eventually did.

Razgovory

#353
March 26, 2012, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 26, 2012, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2012, 07:39:44 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on March 26, 2012, 07:34:09 PM
That doesnt matter. What is the news calling him? I havent really followed this.
Hispanic and white.  You can be both you know.
Nope.  Once you get a drop of Mediterranean blood in you, you're permanently inferior.

Mediterranean is a sea.  It doesn't really have blood.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

CountDeMoney

#354
March 26, 2012, 07:51:36 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 26, 2012, 07:25:52 PM
Anyway, for some reason I have a compulsion to buy some more guns and many more thousands of rounds of ammunition lately. :hmm:

Don't worry, Cal.  You're in Kentucky, you'll be able to shoot yourself a nigger for no reason and get away with it soon enough.  Don't see what the rush is.

Razgovory

#355
March 26, 2012, 07:51:44 PM
Wait, does that mean your head of state is not white?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#356
March 26, 2012, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2012, 07:46:06 PM
Prosecutor's railroad people all the time.  Ditto with Al Sharpton.  The guy will fold if any of the cards in his had aren't either spades or clubs.  Why are conservatives so smug about that particular case?  Duke Lacross has been tossed around several times by conservatives, which is odd since this isn't a rape case.  People are found to be unfairly convicted of crimes (including murder) all the time.  Yet conservatives seem to fixate on the Duke LaCrosse.  Why?

I've never met a conservative who fixates on Duke Lacrosse so I can't really say.  If you see one, ask him.

Razgovory

#357
March 26, 2012, 07:58:10 PM
Okay, why did you bring it up?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#358
March 26, 2012, 08:02:07 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2012, 07:58:10 PM
Okay, why did you bring it up?

To disprove Cal's assumption that Al's lvl 18 racism incantation is invincible.

katmai

#359
March 26, 2012, 08:04:47 PM
Does that mean lvl 19 is invincible?
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