Rush Limbaugh's apology doesn't change anything

[derspiess]

I think if you wanted a direct comparison from the liberal side, then Rachel Madow and Bill Maher come much closer to what Limbaugh is doing.

I don't think Madcow is much of a comparison (nor Olbermann FWIW).  Their tone is a lot more serious than Limbaugh's.  Bill Maher is closer, though way cruder.

[Oexmelin]

a non candidate who was still on the ballet.

Cain in a tutu

[crazy canuck]

a non candidate who was still on the ballet.

Cain in a tutu

The amazing thing was Colbert was able to drum up support on that ballot.  What does that say?

[Razgovory]

So he takes his position on issues like this one on the basis that his enemies'' enemy is his friend rather than as a matter of principle?

You are overthinking this.  He is an entertainer with a radio show.  The political angle is just the schtick is uses to pull in an audience.

I think he hides behind this line when he goes to far.  Conservatives certainly take him seriously.  I mean, they do give him awards and shit.

[garbon]

a non candidate who was still on the ballet.

Cain in a tutu

The amazing thing was Colbert was able to drum up support on that ballot.  What does that say?

Nothing really.

[derspiess]

I think he hides behind this line when he goes to far.

Not so much these days.  He used to flat-out describe himself as an entertainer, but he hasn't done so in a while.

Conservatives certainly take him seriously.  I mean, they do give him awards and shit.

Same with the left (I think they even have some "awards" and they definitely give him shit).  When he does something bad he's the leader of the GOP/conservative movement, but when he's successful and the left wants to marginalize him he's just an entertainer. 

[derspiess]

Hmm, as if the Fluke thing weren't enough, Limbaugh is being blamed for the failure of the Chevy Volt

http://thinkprogress.org/green/2012/03/02/436898/gm-the-chevy-volt-has-become-a-political-punching-bag/

[Razgovory]

I think he hides behind this line when he goes to far.

Not so much these days.  He used to flat-out describe himself as an entertainer, but he hasn't done so in a while.

Conservatives certainly take him seriously.  I mean, they do give him awards and shit.

Same with the left (I think they even have some "awards" and they definitely give him shit).  When he does something bad he's the leader of the GOP/conservative movement, but when he's successful and the left wants to marginalize him he's just an entertainer.

I don't listen to him.  I do know that conservative organizations have given him awards and attributed victories to him in the past.  When the Left wants to marginalize him they call him vile liar and bigot not that he's merely an entertainer.

[MadImmortalMan]

Hmm, as if the Fluke thing weren't enough, Limbaugh is being blamed for the failure of the Chevy Volt

http://thinkprogress.org/green/2012/03/02/436898/gm-the-chevy-volt-has-become-a-political-punching-bag/

Does anyone really think people aren't buying the Volt because Rush is making fun of it? That gives the guy WAY too much credit.

[derspiess]

I don't listen to him.  I do know that conservative organizations have given him awards and attributed victories to him in the past.  When the Left wants to marginalize him they call him vile liar and bigot not that he's merely an entertainer.

They call him that no matter what.  But I've noticed that the narrative does shift between calling him leader of the GOP to a mere entertainer.

[fhdz]

They call him that no matter what.

They call him that because he is, or else because he is very convincing at playing one on the radio.

[Razgovory]

I don't listen to him.  I do know that conservative organizations have given him awards and attributed victories to him in the past.  When the Left wants to marginalize him they call him vile liar and bigot not that he's merely an entertainer.

They call him that no matter what.  But I've noticed that the narrative does shift between calling him leader of the GOP to a mere entertainer.

Actually I've seen the opposite.  When he was doing well, they were calling him the defacto leader of the GOP.  When he's not doing well, nobody notices him.  No need to marginalize someone who has done that to themselves.

[Martinus]

Both Stewart and Colbert are clearly just comedians.

Really, just like any stand up comedian or sit com? Thats just silly.

No, not at all. I meant to distinguish them from entertainers like Limbaugh who are in fact entertaining via political commentary, but not at all comedians. Rush might say something his viewrs find funny now and again, but getting his viewers to laugh is not his primary goal.

A poor choice of words on my part.

Ok, I see what you are saying and I agree with that.

Which is exactly what I was saying. 

[Razgovory]

You know, when he started out Limbaugh was kind of funny.  I blame the drug abuse and the decline of Republican fortunes.

[derspiess]

You know, when he started out Limbaugh was kind of funny.  I blame the drug abuse and the decline of Republican fortunes.

I still think he's pretty funny; otherwise I'd never bother listening to him at all.  And he's a lot more in his element when the GOP is out of power than when it's in power.