Obama considering steep nuclear arms cuts

[The Brain]

Great head of hair though.

[fhdz]

Great head of hair though.

It's hair unfettered by itself.

I have the best head of invisible hair you could possibly imagine.

[DGuller]

Once the asteroid mass-drivers are in orbit, we won't need any nukes. 

The US will never achieve that level of space tech.  You guys have given up, and it will be up to others to decide if mankind ever gets to the stars.

Can't we just wait for Russia to build the mass-driver, and then rent it from them?

[Ideologue]

The late B-17G.

The initial models were nowhere near that.
The model 299 flew at 2100m or 7000 feet.

I'm sure it did, but it also flew higher and lower than that.  That's how airplanes work.

Says the guy that listens to Hawthorne Heights.

I got you by the balls, faggot!

Is Hawthorne Heights similar to Wuthering Heights?

Kate Bush?

OK I know you a little.

[Ideologue]

Ah, the old "everyone does it" defense of genocide.  Haven't heard that one in days.

I think you misunderstand my intent. "Capable of" most certainly does not indicate "should perform".

I would have wagered strongly that if you remembered anything about me, it would not be that I am an advocate of extreme positions.

I know, right?  I never said all five were justified or justifiable.  Only four, at most.

[grumbler]

I think you misunderstand my intent. "Capable of" most certainly does not indicate "should perform".

I would have wagered strongly that if you remembered anything about me, it would not be that I am an advocate of extreme positions.

The argument that "the human condition is everyone is capable of genocide" is an extreme position.  I doubt that anyone here is capable of genocide, for instance, and think the position that everyone is so capable is ludicrous.

Some people are capable of genocide, to be sure.  The argument that they are not the exception is an extreme one, though facile enough to be tempting to the facile mind.

[fhdz]

[Eddie Teach]

I suspect many here are capable of participating in a genocide, especially when the bar is set as low as our efforts in WW2 and the settlement of the US.

[DGuller]

I wish I were as confident as grumbler.  In the right (or rather very wrong) circumstances, a lot of people can stoop to genocide.  The whole Rwanda genocide kicked off when everyone was asked to hack their neighbor of the wrong tribe to pieces, and many obliged.

[fhdz]

I wish I were as confident as grumbler.

I think we all might wish for that level of confidence, misplaced or no.

[Razgovory]

I wish I were as confident as grumbler.  In the right (or rather very wrong) circumstances, a lot of people can stoop to genocide.  The whole Rwanda genocide kicked off when everyone was asked to hack their neighbor of the wrong tribe to pieces, and many obliged.

Well we know Fahdiz would.

[fhdz]

 

[Eddie Teach]

Well we know Fahdiz would.

I've never seen Fahdiz and al-Bashir in the same place at the same time, come to think of it.

[fhdz]

I've never seen Fahdiz and al-Bashir in the same place at the same time, come to think of it.

[LaCroix]

I wish I were as confident as grumbler.  In the right (or rather very wrong) circumstances, a lot of people can stoop to genocide.  The whole Rwanda genocide kicked off when everyone was asked to hack their neighbor of the wrong tribe to pieces, and many obliged.

now, i could be wrong, but i believe grumbler is saying that although acts of genocide occur, only an exceptional few wish to commit them--with everyone else simply following the crowd that forms around the idea. in your example, rwanda, i highly doubt every one of your family men who hacked apart their tutsi neighbors did so out of an innate desire for genocide. they hacked away because they were convinced by their friends and those they listened to that the tutsi were cockroaches, enemies of the state, vile people, etc. etc. who deserved death. the difference is subtle, but it is still there