Obama considering steep nuclear arms cuts

[Faeelin]

Are we expecting imminent nuclear war to break out with anyone? Worrying if we'd be capable of decapitating China and the Russians in a first strike seems a bit silly.

Agree.  A competent leader plans to allow potential enemies to annihilate the leader's nation rather than bother with silly things like winning the war per-emptively.

I mean, if I thought Beijing was going to threaten a nuclear war tomorrow it'd be one thing. But we can always build more of them if international relations change. Would it cost more to do so? Or is there something you know about Red Peking that I don't?

[Siege]

The late B-17G.

The initial models were nowhere near that.
The model 299 flew at 2100m or 7000 feet.

I'm sure it did, but it also flew higher and lower than that.  That's how airplanes work.

Says the guy that listens to Hawthorne Heights.

I got you by the balls, faggot!

[Eddie Teach]

I got you by the balls, faggot!

Keep the sex talk to yourselves, plz.

[fhdz]

I'm sure it did, but it also flew higher and lower than that.  That's how airplanes work.

[grumbler]

Of course we're capable of genocide, or at least mass killing based solely on origin.  We've commited at least three (Native Americans, Germans, and Japanese) and spent billions preparing to commit a fourth (Soviet/Warsaw Pact) and have contemplated a fifth (PRChina).

Well, now that you have confessed, do you feel better?

I am concerned that you still consider yourself capable of mass killing based on peoples' origin.  Have you thought of seeking psychiatric help?

[grumbler]

Of course we're capable of genocide

Welcome to the human condition.

Ah, the old "everyone does it" defense of genocide.  Haven't heard that one in days.

[CountDeMoney]

Of course we're capable of genocide, or at least mass killing based solely on origin.  We've commited at least three (Native Americans, Germans, and Japanese) and spent billions preparing to commit a fourth (Soviet/Warsaw Pact) and have contemplated a fifth (PRChina).

Well, now that you have confessed, do you feel better?

I am concerned that you still consider yourself capable of mass killing based on peoples' origin.  Have you thought of seeking psychiatric help?

There's nothing wrong with glassing the length of the Chinese coast.  Mother Earth would be thankful.

[Razgovory]

You bring the asteroids from the belt and put them in orbit around Earth.

Someone might notice.  I don't think anyone would be keen on letting you do that.

[grumbler]

Why did the early bombers and fighters fly so low?
The B10 Martin flew at 2000m high, the B17 at 7000m.

Early bombers flew at different altitudes, depending on the mission and where they were in the mission profile.  In general, planes flew as high as they could during transits, to save fuel.  They then bombed from a level chosen to balance the need for higher altitude to avoid enemy fire, and lower altitude to improve bombing accuracy.

So, the Martin B-10 may have bombed from 2000m (or less), but it probably cruised at 4000m or more.  One couldn't operate at aircraft ceilings because one couldn't keep the crew warm enough.

[Neil]

The late B-17G.

The initial models were nowhere near that.
The model 299 flew at 2100m or 7000 feet.

I'm sure it did, but it also flew higher and lower than that.  That's how airplanes work.

Says the guy that listens to Hawthorne Heights.

I got you by the balls, faggot!

Is Hawthorne Heights similar to Wuthering Heights?

[Sheilbh]

The late B-17G.

The initial models were nowhere near that.
The model 299 flew at 2100m or 7000 feet.

I'm sure it did, but it also flew higher and lower than that.  That's how airplanes work.

Says the guy that listens to Hawthorne Heights.

I got you by the balls, faggot!

Is Hawthorne Heights similar to Wuthering Heights?

?

[HisMajestyBOB]

I thought they also were not as well pressurized/climate-controlled as they are today...being why the aircrew wore lots of heavy clothing to stay warm.

That's true, but at least with B-17s in 1942/43, they had O2 and heated suits or compartments for each crewman. Of course, if they lost either due to battle damage, the B-17 may be forced lower.

[fhdz]

Ah, the old "everyone does it" defense of genocide.  Haven't heard that one in days.

I think you misunderstand my intent. "Capable of" most certainly does not indicate "should perform".

I would have wagered strongly that if you remembered anything about me, it would not be that I am an advocate of extreme positions.

[Eddie Teach]

I would remember that you're a recovering Chick-fil-A addict.

[fhdz]

I would remember that you're a recovering Chick-fil-A addict.

All right. Perhaps Chik-Fil-A is an extreme position.