Hollywood's irrational allergy to 'black' films

Started by Siege, January 22, 2012, 07:51:00 PM

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Eddie Teach

Also, I'd like to point out that you're disagreeing with your article(as do I) that there's a large untapped market for these films.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Siege on January 22, 2012, 09:04:36 PM
Any full cast black movie have ever been a big hitter at the box office?

I don't think so. Fact remains, that white people, being 71% of americans, do not watch black movies.

I Am Legend is in the top 100 All-Time for box office returns.

Valmy

Quote from: Siege on January 22, 2012, 08:23:27 PM
I don't know.

Maybe I found amusing liberal hollywood not green lighting black movies.

Well there is a difference between the actors and the big money people who finance them :P

I am kind of surprised there are not more "black" TV shows and movies for the general audience out.  It seemed like they were fairly common in the 70s and 80s.  We all watched those shows and movies back then and we were certainly not less racist than are now.
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They were mostly family sitcoms though. There's just much less demand for those nowadays.
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Quote from: Valmy on January 22, 2012, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: Siege on January 22, 2012, 08:23:27 PM
I don't know.

Maybe I found amusing liberal hollywood not green lighting black movies.

Well there is a difference between the actors and the big money people who finance them :P

I am kind of surprised there are not more "black" TV shows and movies for the general audience out.  It seemed like they were fairly common in the 70s and 80s.  We all watched those shows and movies back then and we were certainly not less racist than are now.

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I for one I dont' enjoy these types of movies because I am simply not interesting in stories about the hood, why is ussually the central topic in black movies.
I'd agree here. Black people- no problem at all, I'm colour blind in what films I see.
African Americanism though-...well thats a different culture to the more familiar American culture and one which requires an exceptional movie (/a very boring day) to draw me into.
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Quote from: Tonitrus on January 22, 2012, 10:02:04 PM
Quote from: Siege on January 22, 2012, 09:04:36 PM
Any full cast black movie have ever been a big hitter at the box office?

I don't think so. Fact remains, that white people, being 71% of americans, do not watch black movies.

I Am Legend is in the top 100 All-Time for box office returns.

I was rather fond of; The Pursuit of Happyness. Doesnt have an all black cast however.
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Quote from: Tyr on January 22, 2012, 10:27:22 PM
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I for one I dont' enjoy these types of movies because I am simply not interesting in stories about the hood, why is ussually the central topic in black movies.
I'd agree here. Black people- no problem at all, I'm colour blind in what films I see.
African Americanism though-...well thats a different culture to the more familiar American culture and one which requires an exceptional movie (/a very boring day) to draw me into.

Shocking that you'd agree with an inability to relate to certain subcultures.
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Well finding an all Black cast is going to be unlikely, simply because there aren't many stories that interest Americans where blacks are going to be the only characters you see.  Not many stories about Pre-Colonial Africa that anyone is going to relate to (Black or White).  There are plenty of films were all or most of the principal characters are African American.
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Quote from: Razgovory on January 22, 2012, 11:54:13 PM
Well finding an all Black cast is going to be unlikely, simply because there aren't many stories that interest Americans where blacks are going to be the only characters you see.

True dat. There are a couple older movies that come to mind, A Raisin in the Sun, that might fit the bill...maybe.
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QuoteHollywood defenders will be quick to say, what about Will Smith? Denzel Washington? Halle Berry?
What's interesting in Hollywood is that if you're Will Smith, Denzel Washington or a handful of others, you really aren't seen as "black." For them, they have crossed the post-racial threshold, and in Hollywood's eyes, white America will watch them.

I'm not interested in watching an actor who is primarily identified as "White". If you want actors to be seen as "Black" then they will remain niche. The same about movies. What do these people want? Do they want black movies to remain special interest movies and not very attractive or do they want them to be post-racial universal and studios happily making them?
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Quote from: 11B4V on January 22, 2012, 09:16:16 PM
Quote from: Siege on January 22, 2012, 09:04:36 PM
Any full cast black movie have ever been a big hitter at the box office?

I don't think so. Fact remains, that white people, being 71% of americans, do not watch black movies.

The Color Purple ???? to throw out there.

Hell, that one still makes me tear up at the end.

Quoteand no one says "white" romantic comedies should end.

I do.

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"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

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Quote from: 11B4V on January 23, 2012, 06:06:11 AM
Witness.... :huh:...no Kingpin.

Forgot about Kingpin.

I checked the byline on the OP--Roland Martin.  He's the Reverand Al Lite CNN hired after Obama was elected.  So no surprise he's beating the race drum.