World's deadliest profession? Iranian nuclear scientist

Started by CountDeMoney, January 11, 2012, 06:34:41 AM

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Razgovory

Quote from: Berkut on January 12, 2012, 01:46:37 PM
I am thinking that there are lots of other potential actors here than the US and Israel. Plenty of other states are not interested in seeing a nuclear Iran.

Like Saudi Arabia. Means, motive, opportunity.

Yeah, nobody knows who's actually doing it.  There are lots of people who don't want Iran to have nukes.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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The Brain

Quote from: Berkut on January 12, 2012, 01:46:37 PM
I am thinking that there are lots of other potential actors here than the US and Israel. Plenty of other states are not interested in seeing a nuclear Iran.

Like Saudi Arabia. Means, motive, opportunity.

Means? They couldn't hit a skyscra... Oh.
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Malthus

Heh, am I the only one thinking "Professor Plum, in the Library, with the candlestick"?  :D
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The Brain

Quote from: Malthus on January 12, 2012, 02:03:15 PM
Heh, am I the only one thinking "Professor Plum, in the Library, with the candlestick"?  :D

Wrong thread.
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DGuller

Quote from: The Brain on January 12, 2012, 01:59:36 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 12, 2012, 01:46:37 PM
I am thinking that there are lots of other potential actors here than the US and Israel. Plenty of other states are not interested in seeing a nuclear Iran.

Like Saudi Arabia. Means, motive, opportunity.

Means? They couldn't hit a skyscra... Oh.
:pinch:

Iormlund

Quote from: Razgovory on January 12, 2012, 01:40:45 PM
Perhaps.  The Stuxnet virus could only be done with a man on the inside.  Someone had to carry it in, and load it on to the computers onsite.

It's much easier than that. Find someone with access to the sites and make him your unwitting proxy.

For example, a contractor that works in these kinds of projects. Break into their office or staff homes and load the worm on their computers. Chances are it'll spread pretty much everywhere.

Razgovory

Quote from: Iormlund on January 12, 2012, 05:51:52 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 12, 2012, 01:40:45 PM
Perhaps.  The Stuxnet virus could only be done with a man on the inside.  Someone had to carry it in, and load it on to the computers onsite.

It's much easier than that. Find someone with access to the sites and make him your unwitting proxy.

For example, a contractor that works in these kinds of projects. Break into their office or staff homes and load the worm on their computers. Chances are it'll spread pretty much everywhere.

The problem with this is you risk the virus getting out on the net and possibly identified before it does it's damage.  In all likely hood, the Iranians prohibit certain things on the premises.  Things like outside thumb drives.  I suspect someone had to smuggle it on site.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 12, 2012, 01:42:47 PM

Doesn't mean it has to be intentional "on the inside".  All you need is an introductory agent. 

"Hey, here's a free USB drive.  Enjoy." 
"Thanks!"

Or they could have done the old trick of leaving a 3.5" floppy labeled "salaries.xls" somewhere in the lobby :)
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KRonn

Quote from: Berkut on January 12, 2012, 01:46:37 PM
I am thinking that there are lots of other potential actors here than the US and Israel. Plenty of other states are not interested in seeing a nuclear Iran.

Like Saudi Arabia. Means, motive, opportunity.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Gulf nations feel threatened by Iran, so would have motive to do such attacks, I'd think.

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Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2012, 09:23:50 PM


Or they could have done the old trick of leaving a 3.5" floppy labeled "salaries.xls" somewhere in the lobby :)

Oh or series of punch cards lying around that have the word "See how to lose weight with one weird trick", written on them.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

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jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point