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Worst Commander of the Army of the Potomac?

Started by Kleves, January 06, 2012, 06:17:26 PM

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Who was worst?

Irvin Mcdowell
1 (3.1%)
George McClellan
18 (56.3%)
John Pope
4 (12.5%)
Ambrose Burnside
3 (9.4%)
Joe Hooker
4 (12.5%)
George Meade
0 (0%)
Ulysses Grant
2 (6.3%)

Total Members Voted: 32

derspiess

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 09, 2012, 06:57:40 PM
Can someone tell me what exactly is meant by McClellan building the AotP?

I take it you disagree with the notion but won't come out and say so, in classic Yi style?
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grumbler

Quote from: derspiess on January 09, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 09, 2012, 06:57:40 PM
Can someone tell me what exactly is meant by McClellan building the AotP?

I take it you disagree with the notion but won't come out and say so, in classic Yi style?
It entirely possible that he just isn't an ACW guy, and doesn't know how amateur the Union army was before Mac professionalized it.  It is the only post he has made in the thread, and was in response to at least a couple of claims of that sort about Mac.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: derspiess on January 09, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
I take it you disagree with the notion but won't come out and say so, in classic Yi style?

A reasonable inference, but off the mark in this case.

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#48
Quote from: grumbler on January 09, 2012, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 09, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 09, 2012, 06:57:40 PM
Can someone tell me what exactly is meant by McClellan building the AotP?

I take it you disagree with the notion but won't come out and say so, in classic Yi style?
It entirely possible that he just isn't an ACW guy, and doesn't know how amateur the Union army was before Mac professionalized it.  It is the only post he has made in the thread, and was in response to at least a couple of claims of that sort about Mac.

A general answer might be; Training, organizing, staffing, command structure...etc

Anywho, a good staff officer doesnt necessarily make a good commander..nor vice versa.
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Quote from: Viking on January 09, 2012, 09:34:12 PM
The job done by McClellan is most obviouslly seen in the difference between the performance of the army at 1st Bull Run and the army running regiment after regiment into the meatgrinder at Fredricksburg.

Heh.  There were quite a few meatgrinders between First Bull Run and Fredricksburg.
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