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Ben Nelson won't seek re-election in '12

Started by jimmy olsen, December 27, 2011, 06:22:12 PM

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Quote from: Habbaku on December 27, 2011, 11:52:47 PM
A GOP House/Senate with Mubarak Obama would be pretty interesting to watch.  :hmm:
I think a  Dem House/GOP Senate could get stuff done whether Obama or Romney was President.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 28, 2011, 12:31:56 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 27, 2011, 11:52:47 PM
A GOP House/Senate with Mubarak Obama would be pretty interesting to watch.  :hmm:
a  Dem House/GOP Senate could fail to get stuff done whether Obama or Romney was President.

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I'll side with Timmy on this one.  The same quality that makes Democrats terrible knife fighters in the electoral game also makes them fairly good legislators.  They're perfectly fine with compromises rather than instilling Prussian military discipline within their ranks. 

Of course, as sympathetic as I generally am to Democrats, I also realize that Democrats hold a fair number of terrible ideas as well that are best left unimplemented, so they do need a check on their power.  It's a tragedy of today's politics that the only other party we have acts as a political terrorist rather than as a counterbalance.

Razgovory

Quote from: Habbaku on December 27, 2011, 11:52:47 PM
A GOP House/Senate with Mubarak Obama would be pretty interesting to watch.  :hmm:

Yeah, I saw that movie.  We had that back in the 1990's.  GOP House/Senate impeached the President.  It was asinine.
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garbon

Quote from: Habbaku on December 27, 2011, 11:52:47 PM
A GOP House/Senate with Mubarak Obama would be pretty interesting to watch.  :hmm:
How so? Would they be better at undercutting him than the Dem congress?
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Quote from: Ideologue on December 27, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
Now I do blame Bush for making our obscenely low tax burden the new normal and then prosecuting two underfunded wars, leading to the huge debt that the GOPpies are now using as a political bludgeon for stupid people who think that government debt is in any wise the same as household debt.

Still haven't come completely to terms with the fact that it was the Democrats who extended the Bush tax cuts for two years, have you?

grumbler

Quote from: garbon on December 28, 2011, 02:26:41 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 27, 2011, 11:52:47 PM
A GOP House/Senate with Mubarak Obama would be pretty interesting to watch.  :hmm:
How so? Would they be better at undercutting him than the Dem congress?
Touche!

But the Republican undercutting could be more amusing.  What's the record for the most impeachment proceedings against a president in a single term?  That one could go bye-bye, even if the record is three or even four.
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Ideologue

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 28, 2011, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 27, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
Now I do blame Bush for making our obscenely low tax burden the new normal and then prosecuting two underfunded wars, leading to the huge debt that the GOPpies are now using as a political bludgeon for stupid people who think that government debt is in any wise the same as household debt.

Still haven't come completely to terms with the fact that it was the Democrats who extended the Bush tax cuts for two years, have you?

Because they'd have been crucified for raisin' taxes.  That's what I meant by "new normal."  Bush and the GOPgress left a time bomb that would explode in the Dems' face.  Clever plan.  Monstrous, but very clever.  And for a while it was looking like they were going to get what they really wanted in the first place: the destruction of the U.S. government as the referee of the U.S. economy, perhaps as much more than a strorage service for tanks and nuclear weapons.

But we've read their book.  Everyone now knows the GOP is not just inept, not merely associated with a malevolent fringe, but true evil through and through.  I'm winning the our wager.  And my party is winning the world! :yeah:

Anyway, how are you? :)
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garbon

Quote from: Ideologue on December 28, 2011, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 28, 2011, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 27, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
Now I do blame Bush for making our obscenely low tax burden the new normal and then prosecuting two underfunded wars, leading to the huge debt that the GOPpies are now using as a political bludgeon for stupid people who think that government debt is in any wise the same as household debt.

Still haven't come completely to terms with the fact that it was the Democrats who extended the Bush tax cuts for two years, have you?

Because they'd have been crucified for raisin' taxes.  That's what I meant by "new normal."  Bush and the GOPgress left a time bomb that would explode in the Dems' face.  Clever plan.  Monstrous, but very clever.

Given the general incompetence of our elected officials, I'm not sure why things would be better if these benevolent Dems who know "what's best for us, even when we don't want it" had full charge of the government.
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Quote from: Ideologue on December 28, 2011, 05:14:05 PM
But we've read their book.  Everyone now knows the GOP is not just inept, not merely associated with a malevolent fringe, but true evil through and through.  I'm winning the our wager.  And my party is winning the world! :yeah:

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Quote from: Ideologue on December 28, 2011, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 28, 2011, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 27, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
Now I do blame Bush for making our obscenely low tax burden the new normal and then prosecuting two underfunded wars, leading to the huge debt that the GOPpies are now using as a political bludgeon for stupid people who think that government debt is in any wise the same as household debt.

Still haven't come completely to terms with the fact that it was the Democrats who extended the Bush tax cuts for two years, have you?

Because they'd have been crucified for raisin' taxes.  That's what I meant by "new normal."  Bush and the GOPgress left a time bomb that would explode in the Dems' face.  Clever plan.  Monstrous, but very clever.  And for a while it was looking like they were going to get what they really wanted in the first place: the destruction of the U.S. government as the referee of the U.S. economy, perhaps as much more than a strorage service for tanks and nuclear weapons.

But we've read their book.  Everyone now knows the GOP is not just inept, not merely associated with a malevolent fringe, but true evil through and through.  I'm winning the our wager.  And my party is winning the world! :yeah:

Anyway, how are you? :)

You are more delusion than the revolutionaries of 1848 or the Decemberists.  WTG.  You are nearly in Bolshie territory.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Scipio on December 29, 2011, 12:38:14 PM
You are more delusion than the revolutionaries of 1848 or the Decemberists.  WTG.  You are nearly in Bolshie territory.

:huh:

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Scipio

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 29, 2011, 12:58:57 PM
Quote from: Scipio on December 29, 2011, 12:38:14 PM
You are more delusion than the revolutionaries of 1848 or the Decemberists.  WTG.  You are nearly in Bolshie territory.

:huh:

The Bolsheviks were successful in their revolution.
Successful in murdering millions of innocent Kulaks, which Ide wants to do in America, for the same reason Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin did: they were on the outside looking in.  Ide didn't give a shit about the revolution until his personal life went kablooie.  If Ide and his ilk can kill several million of us who refuse to give up and surrender to the will to violence, then he can have his worker's paradise.

Until then, he can STFU about the triumph of his overeducated and underworked peers in the Occupy Red Ass zone.
What I speak out of my mouth is the truth.  It burns like fire.
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There you go, giving a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck.
-Every cop, The Wire

"It is always good to be known for one's Krapp."
-John Hurt

Ideologue

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Quote from: Scipio on December 29, 2011, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 29, 2011, 12:58:57 PM
Quote from: Scipio on December 29, 2011, 12:38:14 PM
You are more delusion than the revolutionaries of 1848 or the Decemberists.  WTG.  You are nearly in Bolshie territory.

:huh:

The Bolsheviks were successful in their revolution.
Successful in murdering millions of innocent Kulaks, which Ide wants to do in America, for the same reason Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin did: they were on the outside looking in.  Ide didn't give a shit about the revolution until his personal life went kablooie.  If Ide and his ilk can kill several million of us who refuse to give up and surrender to the will to violence, then he can have his worker's paradise.

Until then, he can STFU about the triumph of his overeducated and underworked peers in the Occupy Red Ass zone.

...I vote Democrat.  I've only mentioned that about ten thousand times.

Of course, if you think the Democratic Party stands for "killing millions of kulaks," maybe someone else is the delusional one. :whistle:
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Scipio

What I speak out of my mouth is the truth.  It burns like fire.
-Jose Canseco

There you go, giving a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck.
-Every cop, The Wire

"It is always good to be known for one's Krapp."
-John Hurt