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Started by jimmy olsen, December 21, 2011, 12:00:39 AM

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Maximus

Meh, the D&D dwarves were based on the LOTR dwarves anyway. He used the silly dwarves rather than the fierce LOTR dwarves.

Syt

Yeah, but wasn't the Scottish-talking, hard drinking dwarf popularized mostly by D&D?
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Quote from: Maximus on December 21, 2011, 04:05:33 PM
Meh, the D&D dwarves were based on the LOTR dwarves anyway. He used the silly dwarves rather than the fierce LOTR dwarves.

Well that was not the way I saw it.  Gimli was plenty fierce.
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Quote from: Syt on December 21, 2011, 04:06:51 PM
Yeah, but wasn't the Scottish-talking, hard drinking dwarf popularized mostly by D&D?

I don't remember dwarves with a Scottish accent before WoW.

Jacob

I'm really looking forward to this :)

I hope they do Farmer Giles of Ham next.

Razgovory

Quote from: Solmyr on December 21, 2011, 05:56:15 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 21, 2011, 04:06:51 PM
Yeah, but wasn't the Scottish-talking, hard drinking dwarf popularized mostly by D&D?

I don't remember dwarves with a Scottish accent before WoW.

Not as noticeable with the written word.  I don't know when Dwarves became Scottish.  I read Tolkien a long time ago, and tried to avoid the D&D novels.
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The biggest potential problem with the movie is that Jackson doesn't like to cut.  Return of the King and King Kong both could have used a lot of cutting.  For Return of the King they could have cut multiple endings.  That really wasn't necessary.  If they had, perhaps they could have kept in some of the interesting stuff, like the fate of Saruman.  King Kong could have easily had 20 minutes of dead weight cut off and it would have made it a much better movie.
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grumbler

Quote from: 11B4V on December 21, 2011, 03:17:41 AM
I'm confused this is slated to be out in 2013

The Hobbit: There and Back Again

Is he making a two part??
The IMDB page has a cast listing for Azog and for Thrain, so I am guessing this story includes not just the Hobbit, but the whole story leading up to it (as told by Gandalf at Rivendell, and as expanded in the Appendices).  This ties the story into the LOTR story, so is a smart way to do it, given the popularity of the first movie trilogy.

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Quote from: grumbler on December 22, 2011, 07:51:51 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on December 21, 2011, 03:17:41 AM
I'm confused this is slated to be out in 2013

The Hobbit: There and Back Again

Is he making a two part??
The IMDB page has a cast listing for Azog and for Thrain, so I am guessing this story includes not just the Hobbit, but the whole story leading up to it (as told by Gandalf at Rivendell, and as expanded in the Appendices).  This ties the story into the LOTR story, so is a smart way to do it, given the popularity of the first movie trilogy.

These could be done as flashbacks, the same way they had parts of Hobbit in the Lord of the Rings.

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Looks like a complete rip-off of those Lord Of The Ring films. It's even got that same wizard geezer in it.

grumbler

Quote from: Martinus on December 22, 2011, 07:55:52 AM
These could be done as flashbacks, the same way they had parts of Hobbit in the Lord of the Rings.

It won't be chronological, because the first movie is going to tell the story of the dwarfs versus Smaug (i.e. the actual Hobbit) and the second is going to link that story to LOTR (presumably by telling the story of how The Neuromancer - who will appear in the first movie, at least briefly - fits into all of this, which in turn involves Thrain and the Dwarf and Goblin War).
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grumbler

Quote from: Brazen on December 22, 2011, 08:56:11 AM
Looks like a complete rip-off tip-off of those Lord Of The Ring films. It's even got that same wizard geezer in it.
Exactly.  When done, these will be the first two movies of a pentalogy.  The director has stated how careful he has been in filming to modify his style in the second movie to evolve into something resembling Jackson's, so that viewers see the works as part of a whole.
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Martinus

Quote from: Brazen on December 22, 2011, 08:56:11 AM
Looks like a complete rip-off of those Lord Of The Ring films. It's even got that same wizard geezer in it.

Yeah, it's disgusting how they would milk this cash cow by coming up with dumbed-down inane "prequels" for kids. Wait till we see Jar Jar Baggins.  :rolleyes: