Maximizing Shareholder Value: A Dumb Idea

[Razgovory]

That was actually aimed at someone else, but the quote function keeps acting up on me.  Unfortunately I don't remember who it was aimed at.

[fhdz]

Social sciences doesn't even try to rely on math models to predict the outcome of a given policy, or to explain any social movement.  It's just based on feeling.

That's false.

[The Brain]

Social sciences doesn't even try to rely on math models to predict the outcome of a given policy, or to explain any social movement.  It's just based on feeling.

That's false.

Tell us how you really feel.

[Razgovory]

Social sciences doesn't even try to rely on math models to predict the outcome of a given policy, or to explain any social movement.  It's just based on feeling.

That's false.

That's who that "are you sure about that" was aimed at.  Thanks.

[CountDeMoney]

Social sciences doesn't even try to rely on math models to predict the outcome of a given policy, or to explain any social movement.  It's just based on feeling.

That's false.

Yeah, viper sorta swung and missed on that one.  Kinda like saying chemistry isn't based on science.

[The Brain]

Chemistry appeals to women because it resembles cooking.

[viper37]

Social sciences doesn't even try to rely on math models to predict the outcome of a given policy, or to explain any social movement.  It's just based on feeling.

That's false.

Yeah, viper sorta swung and missed on that one.  Kinda like saying chemistry isn't based on science.

It's a well documented fact, at least here, that social science refrain from using mathematical models, and that is one their weakness.

I may have generalized, but it is a problem in this field.  While finance&economy have fields (econometry, financial engineering) specifically for this, you won't find an equivalent in social science.  They don't even require math beyond high school (no calculus, no stats) to be accepted in a social science field of study.  That they eventually learn to do a simple linear regression, I understand, but we're very far from finance&economy in there.

[Capetan Mihali]

Social sciences doesn't even try to rely on math models to predict the outcome of a given policy, or to explain any social movement.  It's just based on feeling.

That's false.

Yeah, viper sorta swung and missed on that one.  Kinda like saying chemistry isn't based on science.

It's a well documented fact, at least here, that social science refrain from using mathematical models, and that is one their weakness.

I may have generalized, but it is a problem in this field.  While finance&economy have fields (econometry, financial engineering) specifically for this, you won't find an equivalent in social science.  They don't even require math beyond high school (no calculus, no stats) to be accepted in a social science field of study.  That they eventually learn to do a simple linear regression, I understand, but we're very far from finance&economy in there.

Because God knows what a great job financial engineering and econometrics are doing for us with all their mathematical modeling.

[viper37]

Because God knows what a great job financial engineering and econometrics are doing for us with all their mathematical modeling.

it ain't a guarantee of success.  It ain't good or bad.  It's a truth, simple.  Physics uses lots of maths, doesn't mean they never make mistakes and know everything.

[Jacob]

It's a well documented fact, at least here, that social science refrain from using mathematical models, and that is one their weakness.

I may have generalized, but it is a problem in this field.  While finance&economy have fields (econometry, financial engineering) specifically for this, you won't find an equivalent in social science.  They don't even require math beyond high school (no calculus, no stats) to be accepted in a social science field of study.  That they eventually learn to do a simple linear regression, I understand, but we're very far from finance&economy in there.

Hey Viper, check this out: http://www.journals.elsevier.com/mathematical-social-sciences/

(first hit on google, by the way)

[Jacob]

Oh and... economics is a social science

[Ideologue]

Social sciences doesn't even try to rely on math models to predict the outcome of a given policy, or to explain any social movement.  It's just based on feeling.

That's false.

Yeah, viper sorta swung and missed on that one.  Kinda like saying chemistry isn't based on science.

It's a well documented fact, at least here, that social science refrain from using mathematical models, and that is one their weakness.

I may have generalized, but it is a problem in this field.  While finance&economy have fields (econometry, financial engineering) specifically for this, you won't find an equivalent in social science.  They don't even require math beyond high school (no calculus, no stats) to be accepted in a social science field of study.  That they eventually learn to do a simple linear regression, I understand, but we're very far from finance&economy in there.

Well, then there's a whole world of opportunity for me in the social sciences.

[grumbler]

It's a well documented fact, at least here, that social science refrain from using mathematical models, and that is one their weakness.

I may have generalized, but it is a problem in this field.  While finance&economy have fields (econometry, financial engineering) specifically for this, you won't find an equivalent in social science.  They don't even require math beyond high school (no calculus, no stats) to be accepted in a social science field of study.  That they eventually learn to do a simple linear regression, I understand, but we're very far from finance&economy in there.

I don't know where "here" is to you (I presume it is a university), but I also note that you completely fail to provide any evidence for what you believe is "widely known" there. 

I also don't think you know what social sciences are, nor how they are performed anywhere but wherever "here" is, to you.

"They don't even require math beyond high school (no calculus, no stats) to be accepted in a social science field of study" is like saying that medicine doesn't use mathematical models because not every doctor is required to have taken calculus and stats to get accepted to medial school.  I trust that you do know that some studies of medicine do use mathematical models, all doctors not being qualified to do the math notwithstanding?

[garbon]

Social sciences doesn't even try to rely on math models to predict the outcome of a given policy, or to explain any social movement.  It's just based on feeling.

That's false.

Yeah, viper sorta swung and missed on that one.  Kinda like saying chemistry isn't based on science.

It's a well documented fact, at least here, that social science refrain from using mathematical models, and that is one their weakness.

I may have generalized, but it is a problem in this field.  While finance&economy have fields (econometry, financial engineering) specifically for this, you won't find an equivalent in social science.  They don't even require math beyond high school (no calculus, no stats) to be accepted in a social science field of study.  That they eventually learn to do a simple linear regression, I understand, but we're very far from finance&economy in there.

I was required to take stats in order to get my degree in psychology.

[The Brain]

Math doesn't make science.