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[The Brain]

Presumably even those machines that make food out of nothing need to be charged up and repaired sometimes.

Immigrants.

[Josephus]

Presumably even those machines that make food out of nothing need to be charged up and repaired sometimes.

Geordi's job.

[Viking]

Presumably even those machines that make food out of nothing need to be charged up and repaired sometimes.

If you have machines that make food out of energy or raw molecules why wouldn't you just use the food making machine to make more food making machines when they break down?

[The Brain]

Presumably even those machines that make food out of nothing need to be charged up and repaired sometimes.

If you have machines that make food out of energy or raw molecules why wouldn't you just use the food making machine to make more food making machines when they break down?

Every generation of machines would have to be smaller than the previous one to fit in the output tray. Eventually you'd end up with tiny machines.

[Eddie Teach]

I kinda feel like we're leaving the realm of sci-fi for fantasy set in outer space at this point.

[Viking]

Presumably even those machines that make food out of nothing need to be charged up and repaired sometimes.

If you have machines that make food out of energy or raw molecules why wouldn't you just use the food making machine to make more food making machines when they break down?

Every generation of machines would have to be smaller than the previous one to fit in the output tray. Eventually you'd end up with tiny machines.

no, you just have to make the next generation of machines can be made out of multiple smaller parts. In one sense the only skill geordi needs is the ability to read ikea style assembly instructions.

[The Brain]

Presumably even those machines that make food out of nothing need to be charged up and repaired sometimes.

If you have machines that make food out of energy or raw molecules why wouldn't you just use the food making machine to make more food making machines when they break down?

Every generation of machines would have to be smaller than the previous one to fit in the output tray. Eventually you'd end up with tiny machines.

no, you just have to make the next generation of machines can be made out of multiple smaller parts. In one sense the only skill geordi needs is the ability to read ikea style assembly instructions.

Also, food making machines are not themselves food. A food making machine cannot make a food making machine.

[Ideologue]

Yeah, you need a food making machine making machine to do that.

[Viking]

well, both food and machines are stuff, the food making machines make stuff that is food out of molecules and energy. If you can make a cup of earl gray tea out of atoms you should be able to make dilithium crystals out of atoms.


Note: the atoms we find in food are pretty much all of the stable atoms we find in nature.

[The Brain]

well, both food and machines are stuff, the food making machines make stuff that is food out of molecules and energy. If you can make a cup of earl gray tea out of atoms you should be able to make dilithium crystals out of atoms.


Note: the atoms we find in food are pretty much all of the stable atoms we find in nature.

Dilithium crystals aren't food either.

[Eddie Teach]

Yeah, you need a food making machine making machine to do that.

[Ideologue]

I wish it wasn't "dilithium" and "ekaradon" or something instead.  I mean, "dilithium" means something.  "Ekaradon" means something too, but at least you can attribute made-up bullshit to it (well, you could have in the 1960s).

[grumbler]

I wish it wasn't "dilithium" and "ekaradon" or something instead.  I mean, "dilithium" means something.  "Ekaradon" means something too, but at least you can attribute made-up bullshit to it (well, you could have in the 1960s).

Your objection was answered before it was made:

I would have liked to be able to take the Star Trek universe seriously but so much of it is motivated by 60s TV series considerations that I find it impossible.