Belgium has a government!

[Ed Anger]

I was going to make a Leon Degrelle joke, but I couldn't remember what misbegotten group he was from and I couldn't be bothered to look it up.

[mongers]

I was going to make a Leon Degrelle joke, but I couldn't remember what misbegotten group he was from and I couldn't be bothered to look it up.

By the sound of it, he was a founding member of the rather condescending restaurant critic party.

[Ed Anger]

I was going to make a Leon Degrelle joke, but I couldn't remember what misbegotten group he was from and I couldn't be bothered to look it up.

By the sound of it, he was a founding member of the rather condescending restaurant critic party.

The meal was too jewish.

[Razgovory]

I was going to make a Leon Degrelle joke, but I couldn't remember what misbegotten group he was from and I couldn't be bothered to look it up.

I think they were called Rexist, but I'm not sure if that was a party name or ideology.

[Ed Anger]

I was going to make a Leon Degrelle joke, but I couldn't remember what misbegotten group he was from and I couldn't be bothered to look it up.

I think they were called Rexist, but I'm not sure if that was a party name or ideology.

That was the party(and now banned) and it was fascist. I can't remember if he was a frenchie or a dutchie.

[sbr]

Besides, only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Does that make you Darth Canuck?

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Leon Degrelle joke.

walloon.

[BVN]

Just to be clear: we are not seceding. There is a whole evolution going on of seperation between the two main linguistic parts (since the birth of the Flemish Movement), but there are many degrees and forms of seperation besides secession. At the moment there isn't even a majority in Flanders for secession. So I don't see it happening in the short term. Maybe in the long term, but who knows?

[Ideologue]

Don't think of it as secession.  Think of it as the ejection of the Walloons.

Besides, only a Sith deals in absolutes.

And they have the cool zap powers and get to fuck Natalie Portman.  Advantage: absolutes.

[Ideologue]

I care.  Secession from a democracy is evil.  If the Flems secede, I hope they're nuked by the Walloons' co-francophones in the Force de Frappe.

Not if done by democratic means.  If then want to divide up their own country, I'm sure there is a lawful, peaceful way to do so.  Czechoslovakia split up fairly nicely.  It took several years for the economy to adjust (though that might be also because they switched from communism to capitalism at the same time.

Meh.  We've had this debate before, and recently.  The upshot is, Czechoslovakia is not a good example of a "good" secession, as it was a state in the process of emerging from an unfree system.  And ultimately it was still kind of a dick move.

Once states become bound, they can never be rightly unbound, unless the center deliberately and chronically breaches their duties first.

Down the road of secession lies Balkantardism.

[grumbler]

Meh.  We've had this debate before, and recently.  The upshot is, Czechoslovakia is not a good example of a "good" secession, as it was a state in the process of emerging from an unfree system.  And ultimately it was still kind of a dick move.

Poor Ide.  If only those pesky facts agreed with this ideological construct. 

Still, socialists have never been more enamored of the truth than the Tea party is today, so facts probably won't change your conclusion that regions that secede from a democracy should be nuked.

[Ideologue]

Enjoy living in your city-state.

[Ed Anger]

Enjoy living in your city-state.

THIS IS SPARTA

[Sheilbh]

I wouldn't mind a Republic of London

[Martinus]

First Iceland, now Belgium. I guess all you need for the people to put gays at the helm is a loomong disaster of a national annihilation...