David Frum on the GOP

[Razgovory]

None of you assfucks gave a royal rat shit about the deficit in 2008. Not a single GOPtard opened his fucking mouth back then.  None of you.

Ergo, all this deficit bullshit is exactly that: bullshit.  And racism.

I did.

But then, I am not a GOPTard.

More GOP fun times:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-28-2011/much-ado-about-stuffing

"When did Fox News become the 700 Club?"

The right really has fucking jumped the shark.

Damn.

[Admiral Yi]

That doesn't answer my question.  I prefer to focus on fucking pattern recognition.  They've done the same thing twice over the last 30 years.  Why expect them to do anything different?  Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.  Fool me three times...

It's deja vu all over again.  I say David Frum is too cavalier about deficits.  You change the subject to the Bush deficits.  When I point out that you changed the subject you accuse me of not answering the question.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that Bush and the Republican Party are collectively the Antichrist of deficits.  Now, if you'd like to discuss the deficit and what to do about it, let's.  Otherwise, please don't pretend that you're rebutting me when you change the subject.

[Valmy]

Now, if you'd like to discuss the deficit and what to do about it, let's.

Cut spending and raise taxes.

[crazy canuck]

Now, if you'd like to discuss the deficit and what to do about it, let's.

Cut spending and raise taxes.

Extremist!

[Razgovory]

That doesn't answer my question.  I prefer to focus on fucking pattern recognition.  They've done the same thing twice over the last 30 years.  Why expect them to do anything different?  Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.  Fool me three times...

It's deja vu all over again.  I say David Frum is too cavalier about deficits.  You change the subject to the Bush deficits.  When I point out that you changed the subject you accuse me of not answering the question.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that Bush and the Republican Party are collectively the Antichrist of deficits.  Now, if you'd like to discuss the deficit and what to do about it, let's.  Otherwise, please don't pretend that you're rebutting me when you change the subject.

Thing is, we aren't really talking about deficits per se.  We are talking about the GOP's position on deficits.  This thread was not about cutting deficits.  It was about what David Frum thought of the the GOP.  So me pointing out Bush is not changing the subject.

[Admiral Yi]

:shakeshead:

[Fate]

Now, if you'd like to discuss the deficit and what to do about it, let's.

Cut spending and raise taxes.

Why do you want to hurt job growth? We can raise revenues without raising taxes.

[Razgovory]

:shakeshead:

What's the name of this thread?  Is it "David Frum on the GOP", or "David Frum on Deficits"?

[Admiral Yi]

I'm out.

[Razgovory]

Is that a concession?

[Razgovory]

Anyway, nobody is really serious about deficits.  There's not many votes there.  The party out of power bitches about spending not because it's opposed to spending on principle but because it's spending on things that party doesn't like.  Sure there are a few oddballs who real budget hawks, but they dwarfed by those really aren't. Reducing deficits is not a  policy, it's a political maneuver.  I know Yi is a genuine deficit hawk, and is amped now that his political party is talking about deficits.  In fact he wants to talk about deficits in this thread, which isn't really what the OP was about.  He's only going to let himself down.

[Scipio]

I'm serious about deficits.  I'm serious about deficit spending.  Since one counter-example disproves your universal assertion, Raz, you are wrong.

Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are serious about deficits.  Justin Amash is serious about the deficit.

BTW, Frum is a Bushite/McCainiac.  He's about as fake GOP as it comes.  AuH2O 4ever!

[The Minsky Moment]

In what universe are Bush and McCain fake GOPers and Ron Paul the genuine article?

Ron Paul was in the Libertarian Party and only joined the GOP to get more traction for his presidential runs.

[Razgovory]

I'm serious about deficits.  I'm serious about deficit spending.  Since one counter-example disproves your universal assertion, Raz, you are wrong.

Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are serious about deficits.  Justin Amash is serious about the deficit.

BTW, Frum is a Bushite/McCainiac.  He's about as fake GOP as it comes.  AuH2O 4ever!

Anyway, nobody is really serious about deficits.  There's not many votes there.  The party out of power bitches about spending not because it's opposed to spending on principle but because it's spending on things that party doesn't like.  Sure there are a few oddballs who real budget hawks, but they dwarfed by those really aren't. Reducing deficits is not a  policy, it's a political maneuver.  I know Yi is a genuine deficit hawk, and is amped now that his political party is talking about deficits.  In fact he wants to talk about deficits in this thread, which isn't really what the OP was about.  He's only going to let himself down.

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Ron Paul thinks the CIA launched a coup and now runs the government.  And Gary Johnson's state brings in more federal dollar per captia then any other state in the Union.

[Ideologue]

Now, if you'd like to discuss the deficit and what to do about it, let's.

Cut spending and raise taxes.