Ubisoft games - poster children for piracy?

[Jacob]

What do you mean then?
Like farmville and such crap?

Yup. Like I said, have a look at World of Tanks.

[garbon]

No, the lesson is that people have vivid imaginations.

We'll just have to disagree on that.

Well didn't you yourself say that piracy is certainly an issue because those who make decisions perceive it to be one?

That doesn't preclude it from being an actual one.  Some people perceive things as problems that are actual problems.

I'm sure it is some degree of a problem but from Jake's posts it sounded like the industry could be blowing the problem out of proportion.

[Berkut]

No, the lesson is that people have vivid imaginations.

We'll just have to disagree on that.

Well didn't you yourself say that piracy is certainly an issue because those who make decisions perceive it to be one?

That doesn't preclude it from being an actual one.  Some people perceive things as problems that are actual problems.

I'm sure it is some degree of a problem but from Jake's posts it sounded like the industry could be blowing the problem out of proportion.

You don't have to listen to Jake to figure that out though - the industry is going to blow it out of proportion because they have a vested interest in doing so.

It is like asking an auto insurance salesman how much fraudulent auto claims impact the industry.

[Oexmelin]

And Econ 101 tells you that ceteris paribas, that will result in less supply of that good to the market than would otherwise exist.

And then what happens, when you consider the situation Crédit Suisse mutandis ?

[Razgovory]

I guess Berkut is going to ignore me because I revealed he made a fool of himself.

[Berkut]

Yes, that is the reason. You've figured me out. Congratulations. Please keep your personal bullshit in the main forum though.

[Razgovory]

What Bullshit?

[Slargos]

It appears that the only available consensus here is that Ubisoft produces shit-caked product.

[garbon]

I like Assassin's Creed!

[Iormlund]

It came bundled with my vidcard. I hated it. It was so badly ported you had to play it like a console game, with a handful of keys emulating gamepad buttons. If that's the way most games get ported it's no wonder they sell poorly on PCs.

[garbon]

It came bundled with my vidcard. I hated it. It was so badly ported you had to play it like a console game, with a handful of keys emulating gamepad buttons. If that's the way most games get ported it's no wonder they sell poorly on PCs.

Oh definitely agree with that. That's why I switched to playing the rest of the series on a console.

[sbr]

You don't have to listen to Jake to figure that out though - the industry is going to blow it out of proportion because they have a vested interest in doing so.

It is like asking an auto insurance salesman how much fraudulent auto claims impact the industry.

I have an honest question for you Berk.  I have been following this thread from the start, so I might have missed something but if I did it was unintentional.  I am not trying to trap you, or get you to restate something you already have; no bullshit.

What is the industry's vested interest in blowing the piracy problem out of proportion?  I mean if they don't want to make PC games anymore, for any reason, why do they need a scapegoat?  Why can't they just say "PC gamers are whiny bitches and consoles are easy to develop for and more profitable."

I don't see where they lose anything by just saying F You to PC gamers if that is their intention.  What, are PC only gamers going to boycott games that are not made for their system?  Console players won't care, they still get their game.  The very small group that owns/uses both aren't likely to just give up gaming completely, talk about cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

I just don't get the end game here for the PC devs in blaming something that isn't really a problem.

[Razgovory]

It came bundled with my vidcard. I hated it. It was so badly ported you had to play it like a console game, with a handful of keys emulating gamepad buttons. If that's the way most games get ported it's no wonder they sell poorly on PCs.

Yeah, I tried it for the PC.  unplayable.  I guess I could have gotten a controller, but fuck it.

[dps]

You don't have to listen to Jake to figure that out though - the industry is going to blow it out of proportion because they have a vested interest in doing so.

It is like asking an auto insurance salesman how much fraudulent auto claims impact the industry.

Again, d'oh.  Every industry is going to blow its problems out of proportion.  That doesn't mean that we (as in society in general) should just ignore those problems.

[garbon]

You don't have to listen to Jake to figure that out though - the industry is going to blow it out of proportion because they have a vested interest in doing so.

It is like asking an auto insurance salesman how much fraudulent auto claims impact the industry.

I have an honest question for you Berk.  I have been following this thread from the start, so I might have missed something but if I did it was unintentional.  I am not trying to trap you, or get you to restate something you already have; no bullshit.

What is the industry's vested interest in blowing the piracy problem out of proportion?  I mean if they don't want to make PC games anymore, for any reason, why do they need a scapegoat?  Why can't they just say "PC gamers are whiny bitches and consoles are easy to develop for and more profitable."

I don't see where they lose anything by just saying F You to PC gamers if that is their intention.  What, are PC only gamers going to boycott games that are not made for their system?  Console players won't care, they still get their game.  The very small group that owns/uses both aren't likely to just give up gaming completely, talk about cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

I just don't get the end game here for the PC devs in blaming something that isn't really a problem.

Because it makes it a lot easier and much more palatable to have a reason.  Telling PC Gamers that they can't be bothered to make reasonable ports is failing at basic PR.  They avoid that issue if they point to the dastardly pirates preventing them from being honest and fair to their PC fans.