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Would you survive a nuke?

Started by Ed Anger, November 14, 2011, 06:08:12 PM

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Ed Anger

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Quote from: DGuller on November 14, 2011, 06:13:40 PM
The bad news is that I'm dead.  The good news is that Philly, Baltimore, DC, and NYC would all be wiped out under a 5-city attack option.  So would be Boston, but I don't know enough about it to know how to feel about it.

Go down to Pop. 100k and Newark bites it, too. :)
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DGuller

Newark getting hit by a nuke would improve it.

Ed Anger

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DontSayBanana

Quote from: DGuller on November 15, 2011, 11:07:40 AM
Newark getting hit by a nuke would improve it.

:yes: Big surprise they're filming portions of The Dark Knight Rises in Newark as Gotham, right? ;)
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Those sick bastards would nuke Austin but leave La Grande intact?  They must hate humanity indeed.
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BuddhaRhubarb

:p

dps

Quote from: Barrister on November 15, 2011, 10:10:14 AM
Quote from: PDH on November 15, 2011, 08:17:04 AM
Obviously nobody cares about the missles at Warrern AFB 40 miles to the east (though they are over a mountain range), and Laramie survives to become the capital of the new Militia States of America.

Yeah, it's rather simplistic.  It assumes nukes are only going after population centres, and even then will be targeted at the centre of downtown.

Edmonton is a pretty likely target - but not downtown Edmonton.  Rather, they'd be better off striking the eat end of town so as to hit the numerous refineries and other petroleum plants.  Or, they might want to hit CFB Edmonton at the north end of town.

Similarily it says Whitehorse would survive, with the closest strike being over a thousand klicks away at Anchorage.  Well that may be, but by possesssing one of the very airfields north of 60 that can support fighter jets it is probably a pretty valid target for a tactical nuke.

Yeah, the targeting assumptions are just stupid.

I read something back in the mid-70's that the places that were considered likely targets in the U.S. were:

All capital cities
All other cities over 25,000 in population
All important military bases
Certain industrial locations and transportation hubs that aren't in any of the cities already included above.

Of course, that was when nuclear arsenals were a bit larger than they are now--I don't know if cities that small would still be considered likely targets.   But certainly important military bases would be.

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MadImmortalMan

Why the fuck would anyone waste an expensive nuke on Mansfield?

Marietta?


What's that one halfway between Columbus and the PA border? There's nothing there but tiny places like Coshocton.
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Anyway, I'm alive and kicking, but Vegas, SF, San Jose, Los Angeles and Portland are fucked, apparently.
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dps

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 15, 2011, 12:59:48 PM

What's that one halfway between Columbus and the PA border? There's nothing there but tiny places like Coshocton.

Cambridge.  Not important as a city, but it's the intersection of I-70 and I-77.

DGuller

Quote from: dps on November 15, 2011, 01:03:47 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 15, 2011, 12:59:48 PM

What's that one halfway between Columbus and the PA border? There's nothing there but tiny places like Coshocton.

Cambridge.  Not important as a city, but it's the intersection of I-70 and I-77.
So they're going to spend a nuke to take out a cloverleaf interchange?