American Gun Ownership Highest In 18 Years

[crazy canuck]

All of which is perfectly legal, and I don't even think should really be illegal - at least insofar as I can't really imagine a meaningful way of posig a law to restrict it.

Its only "legal" in your country because of the way in which Americans break out in a rash when it comes to regulating the sale of guns. 

But being technically legal isnt the end of the analysis.  Assuming as we must that reasonable regulations will never be made in the US, there is also the law of negligence which comes into play for manfucturers like this.  For example, why is it that a gun which is specifically designed to be used by a child doesnt have built into it the kind of trigger lock our resident gun nut was talking about? 

[Malthus]

I disagree.  Plenty of those kids look older than 8.

It's the fact that many of them look less that 8 that concerns me. I assume the actual infants pictured aren't really shooting the things! But that still leaves many obviously very young children pictured.

But it is obvious that a large number of customers are buying these things for the under-8 crowd and the company is encouraging that. 

I saw that, and I think that's too young.  But it's up to the parent IMO as long as they properly store the rifle and supervise its use.

There is no amount of supervision that makes a 5 year old with a firearm safe, other than not handing it to him or her in the first place.

I guess that would be about 8 years old.  Heaven forbid they start teaching kids gun safety at that age!!

Point is that kids in grade 2 ought not to be using guns at all. Wait until they are actually reliably capable of mature behaviour, why not?

It isn't like you have to indoctrinate kids from birth with gun safety, like some sort of religion.

[11B4V]

Taken from their FAQ

Q. What is the purpose of the internal safety lock?
A. It's function is to stop the bolt from closing. Therefore impossible to shoot the rifle, when the lock is engaged. Note: Keys are required to unlock the rifle.

If that 22LR had an internal safety lock and it was not engaged, burn the parents.

[crazy canuck]

Taken from their FAQ

Q. What is the purpose of the internal safety lock?
A. It's function is to stop the bolt from closing. Therefore impossible to shoot the rifle, when the lock is engaged. Note: Keys are required to unlock the rifle.

If that 22LR had an internal safety lock and it was not engaged, burn the parents.

Yeah, lets not blame the peole that profit from selling guns for children.  That would be or so unAmerican and smart.

[11B4V]

Taken from their FAQ

Q. What is the purpose of the internal safety lock?
A. It's function is to stop the bolt from closing. Therefore impossible to shoot the rifle, when the lock is engaged. Note: Keys are required to unlock the rifle.

If that 22LR had an internal safety lock and it was not engaged, burn the parents.

Yeah, lets not blame the peole that profit from selling guns for children.  That would be or so unAmerican and smart.

Exactly. Thanks for coming around to our view. Glad too see your off your Nanny state kick.

[11B4V]

Start viewing at 1:50. 


Crickett .22lr Single-shot Bolt-action Rifle Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgqOEkuyMj0

[crazy canuck]

Taken from their FAQ

Q. What is the purpose of the internal safety lock?
A. It's function is to stop the bolt from closing. Therefore impossible to shoot the rifle, when the lock is engaged. Note: Keys are required to unlock the rifle.

If that 22LR had an internal safety lock and it was not engaged, burn the parents.

Yeah, lets not blame the peole that profit from selling guns for children.  That would be or so unAmerican and smart.

Exactly. Thanks for coming around to our view. Glad too see your off your Nanny state kick.

I am so happy there is a guarded border between us.

[11B4V]

I disagree.  Plenty of those kids look older than 8.

It's the fact that many of them look less that 8 that concerns me. I assume the actual infants pictured aren't really shooting the things! But that still leaves many obviously very young children pictured.

But it is obvious that a large number of customers are buying these things for the under-8 crowd and the company is encouraging that. 

I saw that, and I think that's too young.  But it's up to the parent IMO as long as they properly store the rifle and supervise its use.

There is no amount of supervision that makes a 5 year old with a firearm safe, other than not handing it to him or her in the first place.

I guess that would be about 8 years old.  Heaven forbid they start teaching kids gun safety at that age!!

Point is that kids in grade 2 ought not to be using guns at all. Wait until they are actually reliably capable of mature behaviour, why not?

It isn't like you have to indoctrinate kids from birth with gun safety, like some sort of religion.

I cant disagree with anything you've said. Sound and reasonable.

CC take note. You could learn something from Malthus.

[crazy canuck]

I disagree.  Plenty of those kids look older than 8.

It's the fact that many of them look less that 8 that concerns me. I assume the actual infants pictured aren't really shooting the things! But that still leaves many obviously very young children pictured.

But it is obvious that a large number of customers are buying these things for the under-8 crowd and the company is encouraging that. 

I saw that, and I think that's too young.  But it's up to the parent IMO as long as they properly store the rifle and supervise its use.

There is no amount of supervision that makes a 5 year old with a firearm safe, other than not handing it to him or her in the first place.

I guess that would be about 8 years old.  Heaven forbid they start teaching kids gun safety at that age!!

Point is that kids in grade 2 ought not to be using guns at all. Wait until they are actually reliably capable of mature behaviour, why not?

It isn't like you have to indoctrinate kids from birth with gun safety, like some sort of religion.

I cant disagree with anything you've said. Sound and reasonable.

CC take note. You could learn something from Malthus.

Yeah he knows how to communicate better with the great unwashed.  I will leave him to it.

[11B4V]

I disagree.  Plenty of those kids look older than 8.

It's the fact that many of them look less that 8 that concerns me. I assume the actual infants pictured aren't really shooting the things! But that still leaves many obviously very young children pictured.

But it is obvious that a large number of customers are buying these things for the under-8 crowd and the company is encouraging that. 

I saw that, and I think that's too young.  But it's up to the parent IMO as long as they properly store the rifle and supervise its use.

There is no amount of supervision that makes a 5 year old with a firearm safe, other than not handing it to him or her in the first place.

I guess that would be about 8 years old.  Heaven forbid they start teaching kids gun safety at that age!!

Point is that kids in grade 2 ought not to be using guns at all. Wait until they are actually reliably capable of mature behaviour, why not?

It isn't like you have to indoctrinate kids from birth with gun safety, like some sort of religion.

I cant disagree with anything you've said. Sound and reasonable.

CC take note. You could learn something from Malthus.

Yeah he knows how to communicate better with the great unwashed.  I will leave him to it.

As well you should.

[The Minsky Moment]

I am so happy there is a guarded border between us.

You say that not realizing that our guards -- within rifle range of your side -- include entire cadres of 5 year old volunteers armed with their bright pink .22s.   

[derspiess]

Taken from their FAQ

Q. What is the purpose of the internal safety lock?
A. It's function is to stop the bolt from closing. Therefore impossible to shoot the rifle, when the lock is engaged. Note: Keys are required to unlock the rifle.

If that 22LR had an internal safety lock and it was not engaged, burn the parents.

Yeah, lets not blame the peole that profit from selling guns for children.  That would be or so unAmerican and smart.

Would you feel better if it had been a gun made for adults?

[crazy canuck]

I am so happy there is a guarded border between us.

You say that not realizing that our guards -- within rifle range of your side -- include entire cadres of 5 year old volunteers armed with their bright pink .22s.   

Good point.  I will have to remember to stay outside of rifle range of the border.

[derspiess]

I am so happy there is a guarded border between us.

I'm so happy you turn into a blubbering vagina every time the subject of guns comes up.  Pretty amusing

[crazy canuck]

Would you feel better if it had been a gun made for adults?

I would feel better if companies didnt make guns for children.  That would probably reduce the chances that parents would purchase them for children.