China forces name changes on people with unusual names.

[Syt]

As a quasi tie in with the U.S. politics babe asking for Asians to change their names to something a bit easier to pronounce/write:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/world/asia/21china.html

Name Not on Our List? Change It, China Says

BEIJING — "Ma," a Chinese character for horse, is the 13th most common family name in China, shared by nearly 17 million people. That can cause no end of confusion when Mas get together, especially if those Mas also share the same given name, as many Chinese do.

Ma Cheng's book-loving grandfather came up with an elegant solution to this common problem. Twenty-six years ago, when his granddaughter was born, he combed through his library of Chinese dictionaries and lighted upon a character pronounced "cheng." Cheng, which means galloping steeds, looks just like the character for horse, except that it is condensed and written three times in a row.

The character is so rare that once people see it, Miss Ma said, they tend to remember both her and her name. That is one reason she likes it so much.

That is also why the government wants her to change it.

For Ma Cheng and millions of others, Chinese parents' desire to give their children a spark of individuality is colliding head-on with the Chinese bureaucracy's desire for order. Seeking to modernize its vast database on China's 1.3 billion citizens, the government's Public Security Bureau has been replacing the handwritten identity card that every Chinese must carry with a computer-readable one, complete with color photos and embedded microchips. The new cards are harder to forge and can be scanned at places like airports where security is a priority.

The bureau's computers, however, are programmed to read only 32,252 of the roughly 55,000 Chinese characters, according to a 2006 government report. The result is that Miss Ma and at least some of the 60 million other Chinese with obscure characters in their names cannot get new cards — unless they change their names to something more common.

Moreover, the situation is about to get worse or, in the government's view, better. Since at least 2003, China has been working on a standardized list of characters for people to use in everyday life, including when naming children.

One newspaper reported last week that the list would be issued later this year and would curb the use of obscure names. A government linguistics official told Xinhua, the state-run news agency, that the list would include more than 8,000 characters. Although that is far fewer than the database now supposedly includes, the official said it was more than enough "to convey any concept in any field." About 3,500 characters are in everyday use.

Government officials suggest that names have gotten out of hand, with too many parents picking the most obscure characters they can find or even making up characters, like linguistic fashion accessories. But many Chinese couples take pride in searching the rich archives of classical Chinese to find a distinctive, pleasing name, partly to help their children stand out in a society with strikingly few surnames.

By some estimates, 100 surnames cover 85 percent of China's citizens. Laobaixing, or "old hundred names," is a colloquial term for the masses. By contrast, 70,000 surnames cover 90 percent of Americans.

The number of Chinese family names in use has tended to shrink as China's population has grown, a winnowing of surnames that has occurred in many cultures over time.

At last count, China's Wangs were leading with more than 92 million, followed by 91 million Lis and 86 million Zhangs. To refer to an unidentified person — the equivalent of "just anybody" in English — one Chinese saying can be loosely translated this way: "some Zhang, some Li."

The potential for mix-ups is vast. There are nearly enough Chinese named Zhang Wei to populate the city of Pittsburgh. Nicknames are liberally bestowed in classrooms and workplaces to tell people apart. Confronting three students named Liu Fang, for example, one middle-school teacher nicknamed them Big, Little and Middle.

Wang Daliang, a linguistics scholar with the China Youth University for Political Science, said picking rare characters for given names only compounded the problem and inconvenienced everyone. "Using obscure names to avoid duplication of names or to be unique is not good," he wrote in an e-mail response to questions.

"Now a lot of people are perplexed by their names," he said. "The computer cannot even recognize them and people cannot read them. This has become an obstacle in communication."But Professor Zhou Youyong, dean of Southeast University's law school, said the government should tread carefully in issuing any new regulation. "The right to name children is a basic right of citizens," he said.

Miss Ma said that while her given name was unusual, bank employees, passport control clerks and ticket agents had always managed to deal with it, usually by writing it by hand. But when she tried to renew her identity card last August, she said, Beijing public security officials turned her down flat.

"Your name is so troublesome and problematic," she recalled an official telling her. "Just change it."

Miss Ma argues that the government's technology should adapt, not her.

"There were no such regulations when I was born, so I should be entitled to keep my name for my whole life," she said. If she changes her name to get an identity card, she noted, it will be wrong on all of her other documents, like her passport and university diploma.

Besides, she said, "I can't think of another, better name."

Using the time-honored Chinese method of backdoor connections, Miss Ma was able to get a temporary card in January. She must renew it every three months but considers that a small sacrifice for keeping her name.

Zhao C., a 23-year-old college student, gave up the fight for his. His father, a lawyer, chose the letter C from the English alphabet, saying it was simple, memorable and stood for China.

When he could not get a new identity card in 2006, Zhao C. sued. But security officials convinced him that it would cost millions of dollars to alter the database, his father said, so he dropped the suit in February.

His case might suggest that resistance against China's powerful bureaucracy was futile. Still, the government's plan to limit the use of characters has not gone all that smoothly.

The new rules were originally supposed to be issued by 2005. Now, 70 revisions later, they have yet to be put in place.

An official this week batted away questions, saying publicity might delay the rules even longer.

I'm torn. On one hand I can see how having 15% of your population named "John Smith" can be a problem. On the other ahnd you don't want everyone to go Le-A (LeeDASHa) or J'vonte' or Ja'breic.

[Razgovory]

I thought the LeDasha thing was a myth.

[Eddie Teach]

They should use a phonetic alphabet.

[Pat]

They should use a phonetic alphabet.

Mao would agree 

[DontSayBanana]

You change the system to fit the data, not change the data to fit the system. Broken before implementation.

However, wanting to avoid problems with exotic names is not unusual. Doesn't Germany still require parents to apply when naming their child?

[Josquius]

I always thought Cheng was a commonish Chinese name...Maybe Chen is messing it up.

Sounds rather 1984 and new speakish really.

[Syt]

You change the system to fit the data, not change the data to fit the system. Broken before implementation.

However, wanting to avoid problems with exotic names is not unusual. Doesn't Germany still require parents to apply when naming their child?

German registration offices can reject weird or outlandish names. You can't name your kid "Hitler Incarnate" or "Refrigerator" or anything else that isn't an "accepted name". Those measuring sticks have been fluid in the past, so it's not a fixed set of rules. Friends of a coworker in Germany named their daughter "Midasia" without problems. Generally, the idea is to avoid major problems for the kids in the future (similar for giving too many first names).

[DontSayBanana]

German registration offices can reject weird or outlandish names. You can't name your kid "Hitler Incarnate" or "Refrigerator" or anything else that isn't an "accepted name". Those measuring sticks have been fluid in the past, so it's not a fixed set of rules. Friends of a coworker in Germany named their daughter "Midasia" without problems. Generally, the idea is to avoid major problems for the kids in the future (similar for giving too many first names).

I understand that; I'm actually in favor of the German system- the example given to us was how something like "Fernseher Strauss" ("Fernseher" means "television," for the non-German-speaking) would almost certainly be denied.

[Syt]

German registration offices can reject weird or outlandish names. You can't name your kid "Hitler Incarnate" or "Refrigerator" or anything else that isn't an "accepted name". Those measuring sticks have been fluid in the past, so it's not a fixed set of rules. Friends of a coworker in Germany named their daughter "Midasia" without problems. Generally, the idea is to avoid major problems for the kids in the future (similar for giving too many first names).

I understand that; I'm actually in favor of the German system- the example given to us was how something like "Fernseher Strauss" ("Fernseher" means "television," for the non-German-speaking) would almost certainly be denied.

It also keeps the courts in bread and butter.

You have some examples of court decisions here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vornamen#Deutschland
The first table is names that the courts accepted. The second table are names that are acceptable if an additional name is chosen that clearly defines the gender of the child. The third table lists rejected names (e.g. Rosa or Christin for a boy, Beauregard, Moon Unit, Mechipchamueh ...)

[Syt]

I'm actually surprised you can name your boy "Sundance" in Germany.

[Syt]

Also, you have strong difference in first names within the German speaking lands. In the north we had plenty Scandinavian and Dutch names mixed in. In austria you find many "traditional" names: Maximilian, Lukas, Leopold, Thomas, Roland, Rupert, Alexander ...

[Neil]

I always thought Cheng was a commonish Chinese name...Maybe Chen is messing it up.

Sounds rather 1984 and new speakish really.

As I understand it, the problem isn't with the name 'Cheng', but rather with the character they used.

It wouldn't be a problem if the Chinese used a human language.  Like all totalitarian murder-states, they're surprisingly inefficient.

[Josquius]

As I understand it, the problem isn't with the name 'Cheng', but rather with the character they used.

It wouldn't be a problem if the Chinese used a human language.  Like all totalitarian murder-states, they're surprisingly inefficient.

Yeah, I thought a character which is translated into English as Cheng was common though.
I suppose knowing the Chinese though there's probally about 40 different words that are said cheng.

[Neil]

As I understand it, the problem isn't with the name 'Cheng', but rather with the character they used.

It wouldn't be a problem if the Chinese used a human language.  Like all totalitarian murder-states, they're surprisingly inefficient.

Yeah, I thought a character which is translated into English as Cheng was common though.
I suppose knowing the Chinese though there's probally about 40 different words that are said cheng.

Exactly.  It's the equivalent of spelling 'Britney' as 'Brytknee'.

[Norgy]

I am all for purging people with unusal names.

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