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Started by OttoVonBismarck, October 15, 2011, 09:37:00 AM

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Habbaku

Quote from: garbon on October 16, 2011, 08:37:11 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 16, 2011, 06:09:59 AM
What's the deal with airline peanuts?

Outdated? Do many airlines even give out peanuts once the peanut allergy lobby dug in? :(

:(  Nope.  It's pretzels and Biscoff cookies everywhere I go.
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Caliga

I didn't get any free food this past trip... not even on the longest leg of the flights (Phoenix -> Charlotte). :mad:
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Warspite

Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2011, 06:21:49 AM
I didn't get any free food this past trip... not even on the longest leg of the flights (Phoenix -> Charlotte). :mad:
Love America, hate American airline companies.
" SIR – I must commend you on some of your recent obituaries. I was delighted to read of the deaths of Foday Sankoh (August 9th), and Uday and Qusay Hussein (July 26th). Do you take requests? "

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BUDALO, OVO JE POSTA

Berkut

Quote from: Warspite on October 17, 2011, 08:27:10 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2011, 06:21:49 AM
I didn't get any free food this past trip... not even on the longest leg of the flights (Phoenix -> Charlotte). :mad:
Love America, hate American airline companies.

American consumers have nobody but themselves to blame when it comes to airline service.

We buy airline tickets by going online, using a price comparison engine, and buying the cheapest possible seat. Since that is how 95% of the tickets are sold, the airlines are forced to cut their costs to the bare minimum in order to compete on price only, since price only is all we make decisions on...

If you want food, legroom, and better than surly service, pay double for business class.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Barrister

Quote from: Ideologue on October 16, 2011, 05:39:03 AM
I just realized something, too.  My lawyer on the "almost killing a guy" was a pretty shitty counselor.  I actually have no idea why the "victim" never sued me, but if he had, the plea deal I accepted (because I couldn't really afford trial rates, even though I had an excellent SD/defense of others case) would have led to an open and shut case of liability in a civil trial. :(

What an asshole.  SC had just adopted the modern estoppel rule a year before.  It should have been fresh in his dumbass mind when he was representing me.  He never.  Even. Mentioned. It.

Ideo, this is where it becomes obvious you've gone to law school, but never practised.

Civil suits arising from criminal convictions are exceedingly rare.  That is because collecting on a civil judgment is very difficult unless there is a guaranteed source of money to go after (i.e. insurance).  Look at your own situation - what good would suing you be?  You're judgment-proof at this point.

I've never, ever had a criminal defence lawyer express any concern over possible civil liability EXCEPT when it comes to motor vehicle accidents - and that is because there is an insurance company to pay any judgment.

Your lawyer might as well talked about the risk of being struck by lightning on your way to the courthouse.
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Ideologue

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At the time I was actually very far from judgment proof.
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garbon

Quote from: Berkut on October 17, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 17, 2011, 08:27:10 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2011, 06:21:49 AM
I didn't get any free food this past trip... not even on the longest leg of the flights (Phoenix -> Charlotte). :mad:
Love America, hate American airline companies.

American consumers have nobody but themselves to blame when it comes to airline service.

We buy airline tickets by going online, using a price comparison engine, and buying the cheapest possible seat. Since that is how 95% of the tickets are sold, the airlines are forced to cut their costs to the bare minimum in order to compete on price only, since price only is all we make decisions on...

If you want food, legroom, and better than surly service, pay double for business class.

Do you have proof that Americans are the only people that do that?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Barrister

Quote from: Ideologue on October 17, 2011, 08:58:25 AM
At the time I was actually very far from judgment proof.

Two house plants and a 1995 dodge neon hardly count as being worthwhile assets to pursue.
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Warspite

Quote from: Berkut on October 17, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 17, 2011, 08:27:10 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2011, 06:21:49 AM
I didn't get any free food this past trip... not even on the longest leg of the flights (Phoenix -> Charlotte). :mad:
Love America, hate American airline companies.

American consumers have nobody but themselves to blame when it comes to airline service.

We buy airline tickets by going online, using a price comparison engine, and buying the cheapest possible seat. Since that is how 95% of the tickets are sold, the airlines are forced to cut their costs to the bare minimum in order to compete on price only, since price only is all we make decisions on...

If you want food, legroom, and better than surly service, pay double for business class.

True, but I have noticed that with Ryan Air and EasyJet, you may not get many extra but I've always had a pleasant time flying with them. The service is reasonable; you won't get handed two small bottles of champagne for swapping seats with a pregnant lady (as I once did on a BA flight), but I've always found the European budget airlines to have courteous staff. When I once flew American Airlines (or one of the other carriers, can't remember), the staff were outright hostile to me.  :huh:

This surprised me, because I always associate American businesses with very good service.
" SIR – I must commend you on some of your recent obituaries. I was delighted to read of the deaths of Foday Sankoh (August 9th), and Uday and Qusay Hussein (July 26th). Do you take requests? "

OVO JE SRBIJA
BUDALO, OVO JE POSTA

Berkut

Quote from: garbon on October 17, 2011, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 17, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 17, 2011, 08:27:10 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2011, 06:21:49 AM
I didn't get any free food this past trip... not even on the longest leg of the flights (Phoenix -> Charlotte). :mad:
Love America, hate American airline companies.

American consumers have nobody but themselves to blame when it comes to airline service.

We buy airline tickets by going online, using a price comparison engine, and buying the cheapest possible seat. Since that is how 95% of the tickets are sold, the airlines are forced to cut their costs to the bare minimum in order to compete on price only, since price only is all we make decisions on...

If you want food, legroom, and better than surly service, pay double for business class.

Do you have proof that Americans are the only people that do that?

No - why would I want any?
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Ideologue

Quote from: Barrister on October 17, 2011, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 17, 2011, 08:58:25 AM
At the time I was actually very far from judgment proof.

Two house plants and a 1995 dodge neon hardly count as being worthwhile assets to pursue.

Yeah, I misspoke in that statement earlier, "couldn't afford" should actually read more like "did not feel it worthwhile with the case against me at the time."  I could have easily covered actual economic damages in cash, assuming a reasonably normal ER stay for a broken nose (around $3000).  Actual non-economic damages are of course very hard to estimate.  I don't think punitive damages would have been in the off.

And, yeah, okay, he wasn't inept.  It's still a very near-run thing whether that plea deal was a good choice, though.  On one hand, the actual incident really did involve self-defense (you need not wait till the first blow has landed, and this guy had actually beaten the shit out of me twice beforehand in prior years; my apprehension was entirely reasonable).  On the other, there were some completely bogus charges involving assault with a deadly weapon (said I tried to hit him with my car), which is serious felony territory, and the associated charges were unsympathetic and entirely true.  On the minus side, I do have a violent misdemeanor on my record for-evah.

In any event, practical experience notwithstanding, I would have advised a client of possible civil ramifications, explained what judgment-proof meant and determined if I was, in fact, so protected.  Wouldn't you?
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Berkut

Quote from: Warspite on October 17, 2011, 09:03:33 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 17, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 17, 2011, 08:27:10 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2011, 06:21:49 AM
I didn't get any free food this past trip... not even on the longest leg of the flights (Phoenix -> Charlotte). :mad:
Love America, hate American airline companies.

American consumers have nobody but themselves to blame when it comes to airline service.

We buy airline tickets by going online, using a price comparison engine, and buying the cheapest possible seat. Since that is how 95% of the tickets are sold, the airlines are forced to cut their costs to the bare minimum in order to compete on price only, since price only is all we make decisions on...

If you want food, legroom, and better than surly service, pay double for business class.

True, but I have noticed that with Ryan Air and EasyJet, you may not get many extra but I've always had a pleasant time flying with them. The service is reasonable; you won't get handed two small bottles of champagne for swapping seats with a pregnant lady (as I once did on a BA flight), but I've always found the European budget airlines to have courteous staff. When I once flew American Airlines (or one of the other carriers, can't remember), the staff were outright hostile to me.  :huh:

This surprised me, because I always associate American businesses with very good service.

Well, actually in my experience flying in the states, the airline attendants in the air have always been very courteous, they just don't give you much of anything anymore. Which is fine, for the most part. I had act all surly to me on my last flight, but to be fair I was kind of clueless and they had to tell me three times to turn my phone off and put my tray up before take off because I had headphones on and wasn't paying attention.

The thing that annoys me is that they aren't going to give you any food, and you can't really bring any through security anymore, and who wants to pay $9 for a crappy sandwich to take on the plane from the terminal?
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garbon

Quote from: Berkut on October 17, 2011, 09:05:11 AM
No - why would I want any?

Because your analysis would be irrelevant if, for instance, Europeans were also always looking for a bargain and yet don't suffer the same abuses that American carriers heap on their customers.

Oh, I see that Arky just spoke to what I was asking.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Gups

Quote from: Warspite on October 17, 2011, 09:03:33 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 17, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: Warspite on October 17, 2011, 08:27:10 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2011, 06:21:49 AM
I didn't get any free food this past trip... not even on the longest leg of the flights (Phoenix -> Charlotte). :mad:
Love America, hate American airline companies.

American consumers have nobody but themselves to blame when it comes to airline service.

We buy airline tickets by going online, using a price comparison engine, and buying the cheapest possible seat. Since that is how 95% of the tickets are sold, the airlines are forced to cut their costs to the bare minimum in order to compete on price only, since price only is all we make decisions on...

If you want food, legroom, and better than surly service, pay double for business class.

True, but I have noticed that with Ryan Air and EasyJet, you may not get many extra but I've always had a pleasant time flying with them. The service is reasonable; you won't get handed two small bottles of champagne for swapping seats with a pregnant lady (as I once did on a BA flight), but I've always found the European budget airlines to have courteous staff. When I once flew American Airlines (or one of the other carriers, can't remember), the staff were outright hostile to me.  :huh:

This surprised me, because I always associate American businesses with very good service.

You've been lucky then.  Ryanair must be one of the most hated companies in the UK. I'd never fly with them after numerous shitty experiences.

Barrister

Quote from: Ideologue on October 17, 2011, 09:06:03 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 17, 2011, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 17, 2011, 08:58:25 AM
At the time I was actually very far from judgment proof.

Two house plants and a 1995 dodge neon hardly count as being worthwhile assets to pursue.

Yeah, I misspoke in that statement earlier, "couldn't afford" should actually read more like "did not feel it worthwhile with the case against me at the time."  I could have easily covered actual economic damages in cash, assuming a reasonably normal ER stay for a broken nose (around $3000).  Actual non-economic damages are of course very hard to estimate.  I don't think punitive damages would have been in the off.

And, yeah, okay, he wasn't inept.  It's still a very near-run thing whether that plea deal was a good choice, though.  On one hand, the actual incident really did involve self-defense (you need not wait till the first blow has landed, and this guy had actually beaten the shit out of me twice beforehand in prior years; my apprehension was entirely reasonable).  On the other, there were some completely bogus charges involving assault with a deadly weapon (said I tried to hit him with my car), which is serious felony territory, and the associated charges were unsympathetic and entirely true.  On the minus side, I do have a violent misdemeanor on my record for-evah.

In any event, practical experience notwithstanding, I would have advised a client of possible civil ramifications, explained what judgment-proof meant and determined if I was, in fact, so protected.  Wouldn't you?

It is absolutely not worth it to sue for $3000.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.