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Started by Razgovory, October 11, 2011, 05:30:43 PM

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Razgovory

QuoteWashington (CNN) -- U.S. agents have disrupted an Iranian assassination-for-hire scheme targeting Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday.

Elements of the Iranian government directed the alleged plan, Holder said. A naturalized U.S. citizen holding Iranian and U.S. passports and a member of Iran's Revolutionary Guard were directly involved, the FBI said in a statement.

"The U.S. is committed to holding Iran accountable," Holder told reporters.

A spokesman for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday that the alleged plot was "a fabrication."

The Iranian government was awaiting details about the accusations, spokesman Ali Akbar Javanfekr said. He suggested U.S. authorities were attempting to distract American citizens.

"They want to take the public's mind off the serious domestic problems they're facing these days and scare them with fabricated problems outside the country," he said.

The Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia in Washington issued a statement Tuesday thanking U.S. authorities for stepping in.

"The attempted plot is a despicable violation of international norms, standards and conventions and is not in accord with the principles of humanity," the embassy's statement said.

The Saudi ambassador was not the only intended target, U.S. officials said. Suspects also discussed attacking Israeli and Saudi embassies in Washington and possibly Buenos Aires, Argentina, a senior U.S. official said.

It is unclear why Iran targeted the Saudi ambassador, the senior U.S. official said, or how widespread knowledge or approval of the plot was within Ahmadinejad's government.

Manssor Arbabsiar, a 56-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen, and Gholam Shakuri, an Iran-based member of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, began planning this spring to kill Saudi Ambassador Adel Al-Jubeir, an FBI agent's affidavit released Tuesday alleged.

Charges against them include conspiracy to murder a foreign official, conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction and conspiracy to commit an act of terrorism, the affidavit said.

Authorities unraveled the plot with the help of an informant posing as an associate of a Mexican drug cartel, Holder said.

Arbabsiar and the undercover informant allegedly discussed using explosives to kill the ambassador and possibly attacking a crowded restaurant, according to the affidavit.

Arbabsiar also told the informant he wanted to target additional government facilities associated with Saudi Arabia and a second, undisclosed country within and outside of the United States, FBI agent O. Robert Woloszyn's affidavit said.

The alleged plot read "like the pages of a Hollywood script," but the implications were real, FBI Director Robert Mueller said.

"This case illustrates that we live in a world where borders and boundaries are increasingly irrelevant -- a world where individuals from one country sought to conspire with a drug trafficking cartel in another country to assassinate a foreign official on United States soil," he said.

The U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, Preet Bharara, told reporters Tuesday that the alleged $1.5 million plot was "well-funded and pernicious."

"Details of that murder plot are chilling," he said.

A U.S. official said Tuesday that the United States is likely to respond with additional sanctions against Iran. The United States will also be taking up the issue with the U.N. Security Council and other members of the international community, the official said.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that additional actions to further isolate the Iranian regime will be considered.

The U.S. Treasury Department announced sanctions Tuesday targeting Arbabsiar, Shakuri and three others tied to the alleged plot.

In the affidavit, Woloszyn alleged the case involves a branch of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps that is suspected of being involved in a number of foreign operations.

The branch, the Quds Force, is accused by U.S. officials of sponsoring attacks against U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq, and in October 2007, the Treasury Department designated it as "providing material to the Taliban and other terrorist organizations," the affidavit said.

Often considered regional rivals, the oil-rich Saudi Kingdom has been at odds with its Iranian counterpart.

The country's Sunni leaders have at times discussed directly intervening in Iraq following the U.S. military withdrawal, according to a Council on Foreign Relations report. Iran has largely supported Shiite militias in Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/11/justice/iran-saudi-plot/index.html

Are they insane?  This is how wars get started.  What the hell?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

We've already ignored one thread about it.  :rolleyes:

Ed Anger



All we need is Agrippa to stand up and yell WAR!
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

HisMajestyBOB

The more important question is: what wine does the ambassador prefer?
Three lovely Prada points for HoI2 help

Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on October 11, 2011, 05:34:34 PM
We've already ignored one thread about it.  :rolleyes:

I didn't notice it.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ed Anger

Don't worry, Tim will make another one because "it's important!  :mad:".
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Viking

At what point does the behavior of Iran and Pakistan mean that we can stop pretending that they a civilized countries deserving of westphalian respect for sovereignty?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2011, 06:05:17 PM
At what point does the behavior of Iran and Pakistan mean that we can stop pretending that they a civilized countries deserving of westphalian respect for sovereignty?

I was just on the verge of getting really pissed off when I remembered we've been offing Iranian nukular scientists by the bushelload.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 11, 2011, 06:19:27 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2011, 06:05:17 PM
At what point does the behavior of Iran and Pakistan mean that we can stop pretending that they a civilized countries deserving of westphalian respect for sovereignty?

I was just on the verge of getting really pissed off when I remembered we've been offing Iranian nukular scientists by the bushelload.

Prove it.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017


Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Viking

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 11, 2011, 06:19:27 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2011, 06:05:17 PM
At what point does the behavior of Iran and Pakistan mean that we can stop pretending that they a civilized countries deserving of westphalian respect for sovereignty?

I was just on the verge of getting really pissed off when I remembered we've been offing Iranian nukular scientists by the bushelload.

I thought that was the Israelis? Plus weapon builders /= diplomats.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2011, 06:27:17 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 11, 2011, 06:19:27 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 11, 2011, 06:05:17 PM
At what point does the behavior of Iran and Pakistan mean that we can stop pretending that they a civilized countries deserving of westphalian respect for sovereignty?

I was just on the verge of getting really pissed off when I remembered we've been offing Iranian nukular scientists by the bushelload.

I thought that was the Israelis? Plus weapon builders /= diplomats.

Nobody knows who did it.  The list of suspects is long.  US, UK, Israeli, Saudi, etc.

If the Iranians actually pulled something like this off, there's a good chance it would mean military action.  By both the US and Saudis.  With a tough election coming up, Obama can't afford to look weak.  He'd be forced to out-hawk the hawks.  The situation is somewhat similar to Kennedy on Cuban Missile Crisis.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ed Anger

I've got a murder boner just thinking of B-2's bombing the Persians.  :)
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Viking

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2011, 06:39:02 PM
I've got a murder boner just thinking of B-2's bombing the Persians.  :)

here is some monc.e.pron for you

First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.