Uncle Herman Speaks:

[Habbaku]

I'd double-check those "majority of southerners aren't republican" numbers.

Raztistics state that it is highly unlikely that the majority of the population in the South are registered GOP members. 

[Caliga]

He's a politically savvy man and you should listen to him.

Ok.   Another one of his strongly-held positions, on immigration, is that "The Cubans should go back to Cuba, the Mexicans should go back to Mexico, and the niggers should go back to Africa."

[Habbaku]

He is a politically unsavvy man and you should not listen to him.

[Ideologue]

He is a politically unsavvy man and you should not listen to him.

Yes.

[Ideologue]

I'd double-check those "majority of southerners aren't republican" numbers.

Raztistics state that it is highly unlikely that the majority of the population in the South are registered GOP members. 

I'm not a registered Democrat either.  I guess this means I'm an Independent.

[Caliga]

In truth, he's a Southern Democrat.  The dude is 91, so his brain is stuck in the pre-Civil Rights era, politically and in other ways.  For example, he still thinks that "Buicks are the best damn cars on the road today."

[Razgovory]

Southern Democrats in Senate:
Mark Pryor
Bill Nelson
Mary Landrieu
Kay Hagan
Jim Webb
Mark Warner


Both parties are national coalitions. The majority of Republicans aren't Southerners and the majority of Southerners aren't Republicans.

Bah. See, Grumbler, this one successfully trolled me unlike that post by Marty you chided me for responding to the other day.

Which one is from your state?

[Ideologue]

In truth, he's a Southern Democrat.  The dude is 91, so his brain is stuck in the pre-Civil Rights era, politically and in other ways.  For example, he still thinks that "Buicks are the best damn cars on the road today."

I test drove a Buick once.  I actually rather liked it.  I probably would've even bought it if it didn't have some bad cosmetic problems (which could eventually have turned into actual problems) with a gash in the door.

[Eddie Teach]

I'd double-check those "majority of southerners aren't republican" numbers.

Independents + democrats > republicans almost everywhere

[Razgovory]

Not all states make you register your party.

[ulmont]

I'd double-check those "majority of southerners aren't republican" numbers.

Independents + democrats > republicans almost everywhere

Uh-huh.  And how do the voting numbers come out again...keeping in mind that in the South you don't normally register by party, so you only know who's who each November?

[The Brain]

Cain: Racism not holding anyone back

(CNN) - Presidential candidate Herman Cain said Sunday that he didn't believe racism was a major factor holding minorities back in America, asserting instead that African Americans had a level playing field on which to advance economically.

"I don't believe racism in this country today holds anybody back in a big way," Cain said on CNN's "State of the Union." "Are there some elements of racism? Yes. It gets back to if we don't grow this economy, that is a ripple effect for every economic level, and because blacks are more disproportionately unemployed, they get hit the worst when economic policies don't work. That's where it starts."

Cain, the former CEO of Godfather's Pizza, said educational disparity and geographical separation were to blame for high unemployment rates among African Americans. Jobs numbers released Friday showed the unemployment rate among African Americans standing at 16.0%, while the total national unemployment rate remained at 9.1%.

"The gap is due to a number of factors," Cain said. "One is a differential in education. Two is a concentration of a lot of blacks in certain areas like the city of Detroit, where the unemployment rate there is 14% versus the 9.1% we have nationally. So you have a city like Detroit where they lost 25% of their population, economically they've done nothing but go down, down, down."

When asked by CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley if he thought African Americans had a level playing field, Cain said he thought most of them did, using his own experience in corporations as an example.

"Many of them do have a level playing field," Cain said. "I absolutely believe that. Not only because of the businesses that I have run, which has had the combination of whites, blacks, Hispanics - you know, we had a total diversity. But also because of the corporations whose board I've served on for the last 20 years. I have seen blacks in middle management move up to top management in some of the biggest corporations in America."

As for African Americans who remain economically disadvantaged, Cain said they often only had themselves to blame.

"They weren't held back because of racism," Cain said. "People sometimes hold themselves back because they want to use racism as an excuse for them not being able to achieve what they want to achieve."

Discusssss....

It's true. There's even a black president FFS.

[Viking]

One you can be confident of, is if African-Americans would behave as if what Herman Cain said were true (regardless of it's actual truth) then African-Americans would be better off. The problem here is that in sociology it is very very difficult to separate correlation from causation. What does get my skepty-senses tingling is Cain's almost casual and anecdotal dismissal of the numbers.

[Admiral Yi]

What does get my skepty-senses tingling is Cain's almost casual and anecdotal dismissal of the numbers.

How's that?  He doesn't dismiss the differential in unemployment rate, he provides an alternative explanation.

[Viking]

What does get my skepty-senses tingling is Cain's almost casual and anecdotal dismissal of the numbers.

How's that?  He doesn't dismiss the differential in unemployment rate, he provides an alternative explanation.

Well, he specifically did not do the math.