CK - DV Redux

[Viking]

I always give away duchies, kings don't get presige from counts iirc, just dukes.
And it makes the vassal screen so much nicer and neater.

If I could give my vassal counts to my vassal dukes without demanding the the title (1 BB) and ceding the province (-0.5 BB) to the duke.

If a count is naturally part of a duchy, then they will be part of that duchy when you give away the title.
Ex. If you have Counts of X, Y, and Z that are all part of (Fromage, France), then make Count X the Duke of Fromage, he will have counts Y and Z as his vassals.

Yes, but when Y and Z revolt and X doesn't do shit about it apart from mobilizing, going bankrupt and sitting with his army, and I revassalize them because I don't want to spend BB on merely maintaining realm integrity then the revolting count is now MY vassal. I can't tell him to swear to his true liege.

[szmik]

I always give away duchies, kings don't get presige from counts iirc, just dukes.
And it makes the vassal screen so much nicer and neater.

If I could give my vassal counts to my vassal dukes without demanding the the title (1 BB) and ceding the province (-0.5 BB) to the duke.

If a count is naturally part of a duchy, then they will be part of that duchy when you give away the title.
Ex. If you have Counts of X, Y, and Z that are all part of (Fromage, France), then make Count X the Duke of Fromage, he will have counts Y and Z as his vassals.

Yes, but when Y and Z revolt and X doesn't do shit about it apart from mobilizing, going bankrupt and sitting with his army, and I revassalize them because I don't want to spend BB on merely maintaining realm integrity then the revolting count is now MY vassal. I can't tell him to swear to his true liege.

You must be playing different version than me then
Make a duke of the richest province, then give him 1 more province so he can't be annexed quickly, and has better chance in clearing revolters. In my game dukes are quite competent when it comes to their vassals as long as they have bigger armies.

[HisMajestyBOB]

I've never really had problems with my Duke's vassals rebelling.
My Dukes and Counts, on the other hand...