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Parti Québécois Balkanizes

Started by jimmy olsen, September 19, 2011, 11:09:42 PM

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Ed Anger

Quote from: Barrister on September 22, 2011, 08:28:14 AM
Quote from: Neil on September 21, 2011, 08:16:59 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 21, 2011, 08:09:05 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 21, 2011, 06:45:28 PM
Really?  I doubt that.
The Canadians would immediatly invade Quebec to free their brothers, depose Marois, install a puppet pro-Canadian government in place ;)
Maybe they should do that anyways.  The Anglo race needs Lebensraum in the East.

Anglo race? :yeahright:

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viper37

Quote from: Neil on September 22, 2011, 08:15:45 AM
So you would say that your inspiration when it comes to the independence of Quebec is the Confederate States?  Good to know that you're a racist, you racist.
I would say, seriously, that if the Canadians invade use after a peaceful and democratic declaration of independance, I would take up arms, yes.
But since I'll probably be somewhere over 100 by that time, I don't think it's gonna happen.
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Maximus

The scenario that Neil is talking about is not what I would call a peaceful and democratic declaration of independence.

Zoupa

I don't see what, in this day an age, would get Canadians up in arms.

I remember when they introduced the GST. From one day to the next, boom, your groceries and everything else went up 7%. Not one single person was in the street.

That upset the frog in me.  <_<

Neil

You don't pay GST on basic groceries.
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Zoupa

Quote from: Neil on September 22, 2011, 01:25:28 PM
You don't pay GST on basic groceries.

:glare: True, but you know what I mean.

Barrister

Quote from: Zoupa on September 22, 2011, 01:21:13 PM
I don't see what, in this day an age, would get Canadians up in arms.

I remember when they introduced the GST. From one day to the next, boom, your groceries and everything else went up 7%. Not one single person was in the street.

That upset the frog in me.  <_<

I seem to remember some massive street protests over the GST. :huh:
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Maximus

It was a bigger deal in Alberta, where there had been no sales tax up to that point.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Zoupa on September 22, 2011, 01:21:13 PM
That upset the frog in me.  <_<

The frog in you was either too young or not attentitive enough to notice the large protests over the issue at the time.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Maximus on September 22, 2011, 02:00:54 PM
It was a bigger deal in Alberta, where there had been no sales tax up to that point.

We had large protests here in Vancouver. 

Neil

Quote from: Zoupa on September 22, 2011, 01:27:40 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 22, 2011, 01:25:28 PM
You don't pay GST on basic groceries.
:glare: True, but you know what I mean.
I was furious over the increase to book prices and would have rioted, but I was just 11 when it came in.  Instead, I supported the Liberals.  In retrospect, that was a mistake as the GST wasn't really that bad.
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Neil

Quote from: crazy canuck on September 22, 2011, 02:04:53 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 22, 2011, 01:21:13 PM
That upset the frog in me.  <_<
The frog in you was either too young or not attentitive enough to notice the large protests over the issue at the time.
It single-handedly ended the Mulroney government and the Progressive Conservative party.  Sure, some people were also annoyed by Free Trade, but it was the GST that ended the PCs as a party.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Neil on September 22, 2011, 02:31:48 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 22, 2011, 02:04:53 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 22, 2011, 01:21:13 PM
That upset the frog in me.  <_<
The frog in you was either too young or not attentitive enough to notice the large protests over the issue at the time.
It single-handedly ended the Mulroney government and the Progressive Conservative party.  Sure, some people were also annoyed by Free Trade, but it was the GST that ended the PCs as a party.

Chretian ran on ripping it up, the Reformers left in droves citing that as the last straw.  The PCs were destroyed in the next election.  I think you are correct.

Free trade ended as an issue when the PCs won the election fought on that issue.

viper37

Quote from: Maximus on September 22, 2011, 10:14:52 AM
The scenario that Neil is talking about is not what I would call a peaceful and democratic declaration of independence.
...therefore impossible in my lifetime.
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viper37

Quote from: Zoupa on September 22, 2011, 01:21:13 PM
I don't see what, in this day an age, would get Canadians up in arms.

I remember when they introduced the GST. From one day to the next, boom, your groceries and everything else went up 7%. Not one single person was in the street.

That upset the frog in me.  <_<
Prices didn't go up 7%.
There was an hidden manufacturing tax of 11% on many products before.  This tax was removed and replaced with the GST on everything.
Globally, the prices were up, but not as much as 7%.  Gaz, alcohol and tobacco productes were the most affected. Tax increase on all of these + GST + PST.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.