Stamp out anti-science in US politics

[Razgovory]

Silly me, I shouldn't have gotten in argument with Viking over this.  It's like arguing with Slargos.  Bigots are always the same.

[PDH]

Do countries exist?  Nations?  I would think that genetic prove families, but what of kinship?  What about nuances, or are they merely shadows to obfuscate our clear reason?  The world not only has all sorts of grey areas, it also has socially created realities that are real because they have an obvious effect even though they can't be pinned down any more than love, hope, or wishing for a fudgesicle can.

[Ed Anger]

Me, after reading this thread:

[Viking]

Silly me, I shouldn't have gotten in argument with Viking over this.  It's like arguing with Slargos.  Bigots are always the same.

To paraphrase Freddy der Grosse when commenting the war with sweden. I didn't know I was in a debate with you.

[PDH]

Me, after reading this thread:

I like to angry up Viking's blood.

[Fate]

That's not a complete thought.

I don't think you can find bigfoot in an eyeball. You can find emotion within the limbic system.

You found envy in a limbic system?  What did it look like?  Was it really green?

The neuronal cell bodies tend to be shades of off-white while the axonal tracts are white. On fMRI metabolically active areas tend to be red.

So you found the parts that felt envy, not actual envy?

Individual neuronal cell bodies and axons experience depolarization and hyperpolarization. They do not feel envy. A specific activity pattern of neuronal interactions within the limbic system is actual envy.

[Razgovory]

Silly me, I shouldn't have gotten in argument with Viking over this.  It's like arguing with Slargos.  Bigots are always the same.

To paraphrase Freddy der Grosse when commenting the war with sweden. I didn't know I was in a debate with you.

Do you believe there are two Razgovorys?  One you have been responding to and another you haven't?

[The Brain]

ID though is valid philosophy.

[fhdz]

From my experience going Deist on the existence of God for any religion is a cop-out. It is a defense mechanism where the believer uses deism to get the atheist to accept that he can't prove that the Deist god doesn't exists thus any god could exist.

That's what I said.

[DGuller]

People who give credence to intelligent design theory are proof that the concept is bunk.

[Barrister]

Good, now I can go get my morales from a person who thinks that stoning adulturesses is wrong in and of itself rather than stoning is ok as long as the men doing the stoning are not hypocrites.

I never recall insisting you do.  Are you seriously this concrete?

I was using it as an example of Jesus' obvious immorality. Jesus didn't oppose the stoning of the woman, he argued that the men who had visited whores themselves could not morally take part in the execution (presumably under the threat of exposing some of the mob in public as adulterers).

I am this concrete. Reality is real and reality has consequences.

You really, really missed the mark on that one.

[Viking]

Good, now I can go get my morales from a person who thinks that stoning adulturesses is wrong in and of itself rather than stoning is ok as long as the men doing the stoning are not hypocrites.

I never recall insisting you do.  Are you seriously this concrete?

I was using it as an example of Jesus' obvious immorality. Jesus didn't oppose the stoning of the woman, he argued that the men who had visited whores themselves could not morally take part in the execution (presumably under the threat of exposing some of the mob in public as adulterers).

I am this concrete. Reality is real and reality has consequences.

You really, really missed the mark on that one.

Pray tell me, is the stoning of adulturesses moral? Jesus seems to think so, his objection is to "those without sin" participating. He is nice to the lady after telling her to "go and sin no more", but presumably this also means "eat no more".

How can he be morale when he advocates the death penalty for prostitution, but only by the sin-less and how can he be morale when he takes no action to help the woman get out of prostitution? I'm pretty sure the canadian legal system is infinitely more morale since it doesn't kill women for being prostitutes and the canadian social state helps these women get out of prostitution.

This is just me analysing one of the bible stories on it's own merits. Merely being in the bible does not confer any relevance or merit.

[Barrister]

Good, now I can go get my morales from a person who thinks that stoning adulturesses is wrong in and of itself rather than stoning is ok as long as the men doing the stoning are not hypocrites.

I never recall insisting you do.  Are you seriously this concrete?

I was using it as an example of Jesus' obvious immorality. Jesus didn't oppose the stoning of the woman, he argued that the men who had visited whores themselves could not morally take part in the execution (presumably under the threat of exposing some of the mob in public as adulterers).

I am this concrete. Reality is real and reality has consequences.

You really, really missed the mark on that one.

Pray tell me, is the stoning of adulturesses moral? Jesus seems to think so, his objection is to "those without sin" participating. He is nice to the lady after telling her to "go and sin no more", but presumably this also means "eat no more".

How can he be morale when he advocates the death penalty for prostitution, but only by the sin-less and how can he be morale when he takes no action to help the woman get out of prostitution? I'm pretty sure the canadian legal system is infinitely more morale since it doesn't kill women for being prostitutes and the canadian social state helps these women get out of prostitution.

This is just me analysing one of the bible stories on it's own merits. Merely being in the bible does not confer any relevance or merit.

Are you familiar with the concept of a "parable"?

Can perhaps a story have some greater meaning upon reflection?

[Viking]

Are you familiar with the concept of a "parable"?

Can perhaps a story have some greater meaning upon reflection?

But this isn't a parable. The Parables are stories told by Jesus as pedagogical tools. This is an act of Jesus, not a story told by Jesus. This is a case of Jesus being confronted with a dilemma of being a dick or denying the law of GOd, he solves it by choosing a third option, accusing his challengers of frequenting prostitutes. Either Jesus lacks moral courage or he agrees with the principle of Divine Command Ethics.

[HVC]

Are you familiar with the concept of a "parable"?

Can perhaps a story have some greater meaning upon reflection?

He's froma protty country. they like their stories literal. easier that way.